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UnTraditional 01-27-2011 03:27 AM

Hate Of Reformed Theology
 
Why do some Apostolics have such an extreme hatred for Reformed Theology? I read where one member of this forum used the term Reformed as almost a slander? Cannot an Apostolic be one God and still hold to the beliefs of Reformed Theology without being cast out?

Socialite 01-27-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by UnTraditional (Post 1019138)
Why do some Apostolics have such an extreme hatred for Reformed Theology? I read where one member of this forum used the term Reformed as almost a slander? Cannot an Apostolic be one God and still hold to the beliefs of Reformed Theology without being cast out?

Because RCC and Apostolica have much more in common.

mizpeh 01-27-2011 10:37 AM

Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
 
Reformed theology especially that of Calvinists makes God out to be hateful and unjust. It's totally contrary to God's character.

Socialite 01-27-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1019265)
Reformed theology especially that of Calvinists makes God out to be hateful and unjust. It's totally contrary to God's character.

Seriously, Mizpeh? Shocking statement.

The portrayal they have of God (reformed) is that of a loving, gracious pursuer who loves us when we don't deserve it. Hateful?

Perhaps our own hatred and idol worship and over-emphasis of free will has been projected here?

mizpeh 01-27-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1019267)
Seriously, Mizpeh? Shocking statement.

The portrayal they have of God (reformed) is that of a loving, gracious pursuer who loves us when we don't deserve it. Hateful?

Their portrayal of God as a loving, gracious pursuer toward the underserving is only for a few not for all.

A God who arbitrarily chooses people to go to hell based on a whim? What kind of love is that? Not the kind we find in 1 Cor 13. What kind of justice is that? If it's unjust by our standards then it must be wrong since God's standards of justice are much higher and purer than ours.

crakjak 01-27-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1019273)
Their portrayal of God as a loving, gracious pursuer toward the underserving is only for a few not for all.

A God who arbitrarily chooses people to go to hell based on a whim? What kind of love is that? Not the kind we find in 1 Cor 13. What kind of justice is that? If it's unjust by our standards then it must be wrong since God's standards of justice are much higher and purer than ours.

AMEN. Calvin may have lived in a difficult time, yet he condoned murder, even encouraged it. If you believe God "hates" sinners, as REFORMED teaches, why not join him in murdering them sooner rather than later? Burn 'em at the stake, since they are to burn anyway?

God has not created billions of His image, as fuel for a torture chamber or for kindling, expand REFORMED to cover all of those that Jesus came to save, then we have starting point.

LUKE2447 01-27-2011 12:03 PM

Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
 
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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1019265)
Reformed theology especially that of Calvinists makes God out to be hateful and unjust. It's totally contrary to God's character.

:thumbsup

mfblume 01-27-2011 12:09 PM

Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
 
I cannot see how reformed thoughts of Calvinism make God out to be loving when they claim He ordained that some people will go to hell and not be able to go to glory, thereby disallowing their own decision and choice due to predestination.

pelathais 01-27-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1019327)
I cannot see how reformed thoughts of Calvinism make God out to be loving when they claim He ordained that some people will go to hell and not be able to go to glory, thereby disallowing their own decision and choice due to predestination.

The Reformed tradition does have its advocates who seem to take the whole Predestination thing too far. Since we are dealing with a fundamental paradox here, we need to approach the issue with a sense of balance.

For me, the thing that most OPs seem to "hate" about Reformed theology seems to be the issue that God is Sovereign. God chooses His saints, not your dress code check lists. That puts a lot of OP pastors out of work.

Jermyn Davidson 01-27-2011 03:18 PM

Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
 
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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1019417)
The Reformed tradition does have its advocates who seem to take the whole Predestination thing too far. Since we are dealing with a fundamental paradox here, we need to approach the issue with a sense of balance.

For me, the thing that most OPs seem to "hate" about Reformed theology seems to be the issue that God is Sovereign. God chooses His saints, not your dress code check lists. That puts a lot of OP pastors out of work.

The Sovereignty of God is a testimony to the Grace of God!

My friends whom the Lord has used in helping me to overcome the most were people who attend churches with a strong emphasis on "Reformed Theology."


If not for the Grace of God, I don't know where I'd be. Definitely not saved and that is for sure!


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