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Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

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Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1031815)

Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?

Who?

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII (Post 1031813)

No. And while I could ask you to specify what you mean, I already know. So my answer is that baptism is not an act, where the correct words are spoken over us for salvation. The baptizee should have either before the baptism or during, called upon the name of the LORD.

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2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

No.

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3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

No.

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4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

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5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

:blink Well... duh!

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII (Post 1031813)

OPII, I think you're still sucking on a bottle. :bigbaby

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII (Post 1031813)

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1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

yes

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2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

yes

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3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

yes

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mostly--- depends on whether or not the sleeves have to be long :D

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5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

depends on what they have done with items 1 and 2

there ya go...don't talk much about it here. what would be the point?

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII (Post 1031813)

I've expressed some dismay at the heavy criticism here when all I've done is promote the basic Acts2:38 New Birth message. It's basics of belief in repentance, baptism in water in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking with other tongues.

So could I get an idea of what's here at AFF and just see what people believe by asking these questions?

1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

No. Because the english name of Jesus is just an arrangement of words that hold no power. It is the person behind those words that mean something. If the whole world was struck mute, does that mean we couldn't baptize anyone anymore? When my son was just a baby and he would cry out for me, did I not answer just because he couldn't say Mommy?

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

No, although I have spoken in tongues I have personally experienced a relationship with God before I received this gift. I truly believe that LOVE is evidence of the Holy Spirit working in someone's life.

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

I don't believe in checklists when it comes to salvation. A relationship with our Savior is much more that that. We do things because we love God, not because we want to be loved by God.

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

No, with all the horrible things that I have been through and have seen other people go through, I feel that sleeve and hem length are the least of Mankind's problems.

5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?

I do not know whether someone is saved or not- I am not God. Is a person not saved just because they have a different understanding of God? As humans, it is impossible for any of us to understand our creator. Can you explain how God never had a beginning, how he can keep track of billions of people at the same time? If you get it wrong are you damned?

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 1031821)

yes

yes

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mostly--- depends on whether or not the sleeves have to be long :D

depends on what they have done with items 1 and 2

there ya go...

Glad to see your answers. I didn't say "Long sleeves" because I understand that many don't embrace that standard. I do and it's important to me, but I thought I would just keep it at the basics here.

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Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1031818)

OPII, I think you're still sucking on a bottle. :bigbaby

Thank you for not taking me seriously and using the occasion to throw yet another childish insult my way. If you don't like this or have a negative opinion about it, why not just skip it rather than feeling the need to belittle me?

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1031815)

Dude at least one of AFFs heros doesnt even believe repentance is necessary. why would they believe you need to be baptized?

Seriously? What AFF Hero doesn't believe in repentance?