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jfrog 04-01-2011 05:28 PM
The opposing scale of regulation and efficiency.
 
It seems to me the government is put down when it doesn't have enough regulation to prevent some wrong (for example regulations on spending government money at a friends company instead of at walmart even if walmart is just a little cheaper) from taking place. However, right after it adds such regulation then it is complained that the government is inefficient.

I think that the more we try to place regulations on the government or government programs to prevent wrong then the less efficient those programs will be.

However, I think there is a "sweet spot" such that if we regulate to a certain degree and not past that degree that the government and government programs will be fairly unlikely to do something wrong and still fairly efficient.

Just something to think about.

coadie 04-01-2011 06:04 PM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1053301)
It seems to me the government is put down when it doesn't have enough regulation to prevent some wrong (for example regulations on spending government money at a friends company instead of at walmart even if walmart is just a little cheaper) from taking place. However, right after it adds such regulation then it is complained that the government is inefficient.

I think that the more we try to place regulations on the government or government programs to prevent wrong then the less efficient those programs will be.

However, I think there is a "sweet spot" such that if we regulate to a certain degree and not past that degree that the government and government programs will be fairly unlikely to do something wrong and still fairly efficient.

Just something to think about.
Name one program run by the gubment that is clean, efficient and not wasteful. Just one.

jfrog 04-01-2011 06:14 PM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1053317)
name one program run by the gubment that is clean, efficient and not wasteful. Just one.
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Socialite 04-01-2011 06:28 PM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1053301)
It seems to me the government is put down when it doesn't have enough regulation to prevent some wrong (for example regulations on spending government money at a friends company instead of at walmart even if walmart is just a little cheaper) from taking place. However, right after it adds such regulation then it is complained that the government is inefficient.

I think that the more we try to place regulations on the government or government programs to prevent wrong then the less efficient those programs will be.

However, I think there is a "sweet spot" such that if we regulate to a certain degree and not past that degree that the government and government programs will be fairly unlikely to do something wrong and still fairly efficient.

Just something to think about.
:thumbsup

coadie 04-01-2011 07:04 PM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1053317)
Name one program run by the gubment that is clean, efficient and not wasteful. Just one.
Young uneducated people are ideologues. They take a gubments word that the programs will be fair efficient and economical. They NEVER are.

Under Obama if an Inspector general finds waste and fraud, he will be fired without recourse or even meeting the rules and laws for termination.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=101031

Former Inspector General Gerald Walpin filed two reports exposing gross misappropriation of federal AmeriCorps funds by a prominent Barack Obama supporter and was shortly thereafter fired by the White House, circumstances he told WND are likely linked and others have called an outright illegal action by the administration.

"I think you have to look at the facts and the circumstances and reach your conclusions," Walpin said in a WND interview. "I will tell you that [my firing] came only after we had issued those two reports to Congress, and I don't think that's a coincidence."



Read more: Obama fires watchdog who barked at his crony http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=101031#ixzz1IK6pUZqe

Obama supporters have low ethical standards.

jfrog 04-02-2011 08:56 AM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1053351)
young uneducated people are ideologues. They take a gubments word that the programs will be fair efficient and economical. They never are.

Under obama if an inspector general finds waste and fraud, he will be fired without recourse or even meeting the rules and laws for termination.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=page.view&pageid=101031

former inspector general gerald walpin filed two reports exposing gross misappropriation of federal americorps funds by a prominent barack obama supporter and was shortly thereafter fired by the white house, circumstances he told wnd are likely linked and others have called an outright illegal action by the administration.

"i think you have to look at the facts and the circumstances and reach your conclusions," walpin said in a wnd interview. "i will tell you that [my firing] came only after we had issued those two reports to congress, and i don't think that's a coincidence."



read more: Obama fires watchdog who barked at his crony http://www.wnd.com/?pageid=101031#ixzz1ik6puzqe

obama supporters have low ethical standards.
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sandie 04-02-2011 09:03 AM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1053301)
It seems to me the government is put down when it doesn't have enough regulation to prevent some wrong (for example regulations on spending government money at a friends company instead of at walmart even if walmart is just a little cheaper) from taking place. However, right after it adds such regulation then it is complained that the government is inefficient.

I think that the more we try to place regulations on the government or government programs to prevent wrong then the less efficient those programs will be.

However, I think there is a "sweet spot" such that if we regulate to a certain degree and not past that degree that the government and government programs will be fairly unlikely to do something wrong and still fairly efficient.

Just something to think about.
"Fairly"? (just pretend there are a zillion question marks after that first one ;) )

The federal government needs to stay out of as much of the business, personal, economic world of Americans as possible.

Where exactly is this "sweet spot"? I say it stays within the boundries of the constitution, it doesn't get any "sweeter" than that.

jfrog 04-02-2011 09:40 AM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1053448)
"Fairly"? (just pretend there are a zillion question marks after that first one ;) )

The federal government needs to stay out of as much of the business, personal, economic world of Americans as possible.

Where exactly is this "sweet spot"? I say it stays within the boundries of the constitution, it doesn't get any "sweeter" than that.
I wasn't talking about any of the bolded. Maybe you misunderstood my post?

Socialite 04-02-2011 09:46 AM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
I'm convinced the majority of people who call themselves conservatives, are just knee-jerk, sound-byte reactors to anything that sounds disagreeable to their bumper stickers. In that way, there's not much a difference in terms of how they understand, articulate and talk through political issues as the green-haired, hippie liberal.

You say something about government, and regardless of WHAT you've said, they already have their response cued up: "WE HATE THE GOVERNMENT. LESS GOVERNMENT. SMALLER GOVERNMENT." Sounds like a Sarah Palin interview after while :0

sandie 04-02-2011 05:35 PM
Re: The opposing scale of regulation and efficienc
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Socialite (Post 1053462)
I'm convinced the majority of people who call themselves conservatives, are just knee-jerk, sound-byte reactors to anything that sounds disagreeable to their bumper stickers. In that way, there's not much a difference in terms of how they understand, articulate and talk through political issues as the green-haired, hippie liberal.

You say something about government, and regardless of WHAT you've said, they already have their response cued up: "WE HATE THE GOVERNMENT. LESS GOVERNMENT. SMALLER GOVERNMENT." Sounds like a Sarah Palin interview after while :0
Goodness, quite the broad brush there.
I'm old enough to have lived in the America without the government being so big and intrusive, I happend to like it....Sarah Palin or no Sarah Palin.


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