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Sam 05-02-2011 12:55 PM

John 3:34
 
John 3:34 is a verse among several in the last part of that 3rd chapter of John where John the Baptist was asked about Jesus. In verse 25 John was asked a question. His answer is found in the following verses. It is not clear to me whether his answer stops and the Apostle John adds comment or if these are all the words of John the Baptist.

The verse I am wondering about says: "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him."

The words "unto him" are in italics which meant they are not in the original but were added by the translators for clarity.

A note in my Bible here, not sure where I heard it or read it, says:
"The Jews said that the prophets received a portion or certain measure of the Spirit. The full measure was reserved for the Chosen One."

What think ye?

UnTraditional 05-02-2011 01:27 PM

Re: John 3:34
 
The full measure would be the absolute and total fullness of the Spirit. Only God Himself could handle that. Proves further to me the fact that Christ is indeed God manifested in the flesh.

SRM 05-02-2011 05:09 PM

Re: John 3:34
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1062867)
John 3:34 is a verse among several in the last part of that 3rd chapter of John where John the Baptist was asked about Jesus. In verse 25 John was asked a question. His answer is found in the following verses. It is not clear to me whether his answer stops and the Apostle John adds comment or if these are all the words of John the Baptist.

The verse I am wondering about says: "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him."

The words "unto him" are in italics which meant they are not in the original but were added by the translators for clarity.

A note in my Bible here, not sure where I heard it or read it, says:
"The Jews said that the prophets received a portion or certain measure of the Spirit. The full measure was reserved for the Chosen One."

What think ye?


That is exactly my position ..Jesus was anointed like no other..this is why and how He was able to do the things He did.How is it when we look at the things Moses did in the presence of Pharaoh we understand Moses was not the one performing the miracles but rather it was God acting through him.Moses wrote in Deut 18 that God would raise up a Prophet LIKE Moses..just my thought:thumbsup

Praxeas 05-02-2011 07:46 PM

Re: John 3:34
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SRM (Post 1063123)
That is exactly my position ..Jesus was anointed like no other..this is why and how He was able to do the things He did.How is it when we look at the things Moses did in the presence of Pharaoh we understand Moses was not the one performing the miracles but rather it was God acting through him.Moses wrote in Deut 18 that God would raise up a Prophet LIKE Moses..just my thought:thumbsup

That would be everyone's position, that Jesus was anointed like no other

SRM 05-02-2011 08:04 PM

Re: John 3:34
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1063166)
That would be everyone's position, that Jesus was anointed like no other

I understand this is how He did the miracles..not because He was God..:icecream

Praxeas 05-02-2011 08:06 PM

Re: John 3:34
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SRM (Post 1063179)
I understand this is how He did the miracles..not because He was God..:icecream

I understand that is HOW he did the miracles too.

:nahnah

UnTraditional 05-03-2011 05:54 AM

Re: John 3:34
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SRM (Post 1063179)
I understand this is how He did the miracles..not because He was God..:icecream

But, He was and is God. So both in the anointing and in His identity.


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