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Christs Two natures are what?

The Two Natures of Jesus Christ.

If a Oneness Pentecostal should ever tell you that he or she believes that the Son of God possesses two natures of deity and humanity, then a good question to ask them would be; what are these two natures called?

A) Are they called the Father and the Son?

B) Are they called the Son and the Son?

C) Are they called the Father and the Father?

Now if they should reply (A) then ask them how can one the nature of the Son be really called the Father, as that would make the Son’s deity; God the Father, a position which is extremely common in Oneness but which the better educated Oneness pastors are always loathed to admit to a Trinitarian? Also if the humanity of Christ is called the Son, then that would mean that the Son isn’t Yahweh God at all, but is just God’s flesh which the deity or Father part of Jesus is said to indwell in Oneness theology, which commonly refers to this as; ‘the Almighty God in Christ.’

If they should reply (B) then we could point out that if this were true, then as deity; that would make the Son (in his deity) an eternal Son, which is contrary to every form of Oneness theology. Position (B) is the Trinitarian position which refers to each of Christ’s two natures as the Son, Christ being; ‘the Son of the Father’ (2nd John 3) and not God the Father himself, the genitive ‘of’ implying an obvious and clear distinction between God the Father and the Son. For it’s not possible to be the Son of yourself.

If they should reply (C) then this would be the most idiotic position of all, for that would mean that the Son isn’t the Son in either of his two natures of deity and humanity but is really God the Father in both of them!

(Note this post was written today, the 11th May from scratch. I wrote it at home after going onto this forum in the morning). Due to exams, I might not be able to reply for a week or so.

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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder (Post 110036)

The Two Natures of Jesus Christ.

If a Oneness Pentecostal should ever tell you that he or she believes that the Son of God possesses two natures of deity and humanity, then a good question to ask them would be; what are these two natures called?

A) Are they called the Father and the Son?

B) Are they called the Son and the Son?

C) Are they called the Father and the Father?

Now if they should reply (A) then ask them how can one the nature of the Son be really called the Father, as that would make the Son’s deity; God the Father, a position which is extremely common in Oneness but which the better educated Oneness pastors are always loathed to admit to a Trinitarian? Also if the humanity of Christ is called the Son, then that would mean that the Son isn’t Yahweh God at all, but is just God’s flesh which the deity or Father part of Jesus is said to indwell in Oneness theology, which commonly refers to this as; ‘the Almighty God in Christ.’

If they should reply (B) then we could point out that if this were true, then as deity; that would make the Son (in his deity) an eternal Son, which is contrary to every form of Oneness theology. Position (B) is the Trinitarian position which refers to each of Christ’s two natures as the Son, Christ being; ‘the Son of the Father’ (2nd John 3) and not God the Father himself, the genitive ‘of’ implying an obvious and clear distinction between God the Father and the Son. For it’s not possible to be the Son of yourself.

If they should reply (C) then this would be the most idiotic position of all, for that would mean that the Son isn’t the Son in either of his two natures of deity and humanity but is really God the Father in both of them!

(Note this post was written today, the 11th May from scratch. I wrote it at home after going onto this forum in the morning). Due to exams, I might not be able to reply for a week or so.

None of the above: the two natures are divine and human.

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 110043)

None of the above: the two natures are divine and human.

OK, I agree, but what do you CALL these two natures? Is the deity called 'Father' and the 'Son' the humanity? So all that I'm asking is for you to label them for me; how does Scripture refer to Jesus' divinty and also to his humanity? Does the Bible have absolutely no name to each? Or if it has names, what are they?

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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder (Post 110054)

He just told you. He calls them Divine and Human. Deity and Humanity. That is what they are called. Please stop reposting the same questions. Most of the thread started here are all yours, one persons and they repeat questions we already answered in another post

Deity and Humanity. That is the answer

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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder (Post 110054)

Why would you name a nature?

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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder (Post 110054)

Since I believe in hypostatic union into one being, I call them "Jesus."

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 110043)

None of the above: the two natures are divine and human.

OK and what do you call each nature? Do you call the deity the Father and the Son the flesh? Or do you call both natures the Father?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 110420)

Why would you name a nature?

I'm referring to the deity of Christ and then secondly to his humanity, how do you refer to each? Is Christ's deity the Father and his humanity the Father also? Or is his deity the Father and his humanity called the Son?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 110419)

OK and what do you call each? Is one the Father and the other the Son or are they both the Father or are they both the Son?

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Originally Posted by Chan (Post 110472)

Since I believe in hypostatic union into one being, I call them "Jesus."

So what hs the Father and the Son got to do with Jesus? Is Jesus not either of these, or is he only one or both? When Marks Gospel commences; 'The beginning of Jesus Christ the SON of God' what does Son mean and to which of his two natures does this term apply?