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Falla39 07-20-2011 02:20 PM

Marxism - America
 
I received the following link in an e-mail this morning.


http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-ini...arxism-america

coadie 07-20-2011 04:05 PM

Re: Marxism - America
 
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From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularised by ...
If Jesus said to sell everything and give it to the Poor, Why do Christians ask Christians for Money?

Ok.. The Marxists say that this means they are doing the Lords work if they tax and take.

trialedbyfire 07-20-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1082320)
If Jesus said to sell everything and give it to the Poor, Why do Christians ask Christians for Money?

Ok.. The Marxists say that this means they are doing the Lords work if they tax and take.

The point of that scripture is found in it's context.

I agree we should care for the poor, but marxism is not Biblical. Marx himself knew this, he didn't believe in the existence of a God and Marxists detest faith, because it takes away loyalty to the state.

riverslivnwtr 07-22-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1082337)
The point of that scripture is found in it's context.

I agree we should care for the poor, but marxism is not Biblical. Marx himself knew this, he didn't believe in the existence of a God and Marxists detest faith, because it takes away loyalty to the state.


yes but the very first socialists were in fact Christians in Acts..
:laffatu

and every government wants loyalty of it's citizens don't they?

onefaith2 07-22-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr (Post 1082855)
yes but the very first socialists were in fact Christians in Acts..
:laffatu

and every government wants loyalty of it's citizens don't they?

That wasn't socialism in the book of Acts. No one forced them to give gifts. They gave them freely to distribute. Therein is the difference.

riverslivnwtr 07-22-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2 (Post 1082858)
That wasn't socialism in the book of Acts. No one forced them to give gifts. They gave them freely to distribute. Therein is the difference.


and what happened to Annias and his wife??? at least they was one flesh..:heeheehee:laffatu

when is socialism forced...I don't see no guns... Ohhh in Russians and China..
N Korea, ..
but every nation under the sun was formed by bloodshed..Maybe even Fiji or Hawaii ..:laffatu

onefaith2 07-22-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr (Post 1082898)
and what happened to Annias and his wife??? at least they was one flesh..:heeheehee:laffatu

when is socialism forced...I don't see no guns... Ohhh in Russians and China..
N Korea, ..
but every nation under the sun was formed by bloodshed..Maybe even Fiji or Hawaii ..:laffatu

Annanias and his wife lied about what they would give. That isn't socialism, thats dishonesty

RandyWayne 07-22-2011 03:43 PM

Re: Marxism - America
 
In giving, someone sees a need in someones life and gives them something, whether $, food, or other necessity. The person receiving the charity sees the person who received it or at least knows a specific individual donated it. This receiver is usually thankful and tends to use these resources more wisely because they know someone else worked for them.

In socialism/redistribution, a 3rd party (government) takes money then turns around and gives it to others whether they need it or not (high fraud rates). The receiver thanks (if they thank anyone) government for giving it to them. They continue to hate the person who government took the money from in the first place because of pure envy. They then vote for the politician who voted for legislation confiscating money from the "haves" to give to the "have nots" or those who CLAIM to be "have nots". These same people also see a need but always think the person who makes a nickle more an hour then them should be the ones responsible for meeting those needs. Never them.

Socialism. The perfect storm when the winds of greed and guilt meet overhead and form a twister.


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