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Orthodoxy 07-31-2011 01:06 PM
C.H. Spurgeon: Baptist Preacher on the Holy Spirit
 
Quote:
“Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you.” John 16:7.

There is an efficacy about the Gospel, when the Spirit is with us, little dreamed of by those who call it the foolishness of men. I am persuaded that the results which have followed ministry in our lifetime are trivial and insignificant compared with what they would be if the Spirit of God were more mightily at work in our midst. There is no reason in the nature of the Gospel or the power of the Spirit why a whole congregation should not be converted under one sermon!...

The success given was only the first fruits—Pentecost is not the harvest. We have been accustomed to look on Pentecost as a great and wonderful display of Divine power not at all to be equaled in modern times. Brethren, it is to be exceeded! I stand not upon Pentecost as upon a towering mountain, wondering at my height, but I look at Pentecost as a little rising knoll from which I am to look up to mountains far loftier!

...You must expect greater things, pray for greater things, long for greater things! Here is this England of ours, sunk in stolid ignorance of the Gospel...How is she to arise? “Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord.”

The one thing, then, which we need, is the Spirit of God! Do not say that we need money—we shall have it soon enough when the Spirit touches men’s hearts. Do not say that we need buildings, Churches, edifices—all these may be very well in subservience—but the main need of the Church is the Spirit and men into whom the Spirit may be poured! If there were only one prayer which I might pray before I died, it should be this: “Lord, send to Your Church men filled with the Holy Spirit and with fire.” Give to any denomination such men and its progress must be mighty—keep back such men, send them college gentlemen of great refinement and profound learning, but of little fire and Grace—dumb dogs which cannot bark—and straightway that denomination must decline. Let the Spirit come and the preacher may be rustic, simple, rough, unmannered—but the Holy Spirit being upon him—none of his adversaries shall stand against him! His word shall be with power to the shaking of the gates of Hell!
~Charles Haddon Spurgeon,
June 12, 1864, at The Metropolitan Tabernacle, London
(italics mine)

Cindy 07-31-2011 02:02 PM
Re: C.H. Spurgeon: Baptist Preacher on the Holy Sp
 
Amen

Aquila 07-31-2011 03:03 PM
Amen.

mizpeh 07-31-2011 03:58 PM
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Amen!!!

Sam 07-31-2011 09:18 PM
Re: C.H. Spurgeon: Baptist Preacher on the Holy Sp
 
now, you know that some here may say that a cigar-smoking Baptist preacher like Spurgeon could not possibly have the Holy Spirit indwelling him.

Sam 07-31-2011 09:23 PM
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15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:15-18

Jesus was trying to teach His disciples that He would no longer be with them as the Son but would instead be in them as the Holy Spirit/Comforter/Advocate/Helper/Friend/Counselor/Standby/Strengthener/Paraclete/One called alongside to help.

Austin 08-01-2011 05:51 AM
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If those who believe there is only one work of grace would open their minds and realize that there are many works of Jesus' grace in mankind. If they would only realize this then would they receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and the evidences that follow.
But they think they have it simply by believing. Maybe that's why when pentecostal and those who have had the same experiences when they are together they are always talking about Jesus, verses, those who when they are together are always surrounding their conversations with the things of the world. Not to say they are not saved, only to say they are walking below their privilege in Jesus.

deltaguitar 08-01-2011 09:25 AM
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I don't think he was talking about the same baptism of the Holy Ghost that pentecostals believe in.

He was also a Calvinist yet uses language that says that if WE would do something the HOLY SPIRIT would do something. Conditional language can be used by a calvinist.

Sam 08-01-2011 09:27 AM
Re: C.H. Spurgeon: Baptist Preacher on the Holy Sp
 
If you..... then I

is OK for Calvinists, Arminians, etc. to use, isn't it?

deltaguitar 08-01-2011 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1085665)
If you..... then I

is OK for Calvinists, Arminians, etc. to use, isn't it?
Yes, of course.

Sometimes it is assumed that there is a fatalist mentality among calvinist because everything has been "preordained". The truth is that God commands us to seek after the gifts, be baptized in the Holy Spirit, send missionaries etc. and not to sit on our hands and say, "well if God wants it to be done then it will be done."

Conditional language is as biblical as using Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.


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