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onefaith2 08-05-2011 12:28 PM

Princeton Grad Student Bill Zeller Suicide Note In
 
This article cuts to the heart of helplessness and to a preached Jesus of hate, rather than love.


http://www.baptistdeception.com/

Bella1 08-05-2011 01:07 PM

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This is overwhelming the most sad letter I have ever read. It makes my heart literally hurt!

rgcraig 08-05-2011 01:15 PM

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Wow.

rgcraig 08-05-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2 (Post 1087130)
This article cuts to the heart of helplessness and to a preached Jesus of hate, rather than love.


http://www.baptistdeception.com/

I don't understand your "preached Jesus of hate, rather than love" comment.

3rdXcharm 08-05-2011 02:00 PM

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So sad! The preception that he had of himself makes my heart break.

RandyWayne 08-05-2011 02:36 PM

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I wonder how many times he was chained to the pews during song service as they belted out "Joy unspeakable and full of glory!" a few dozen times.

onefaith2 08-05-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1087191)
I don't understand your "preached Jesus of hate, rather than love" comment.

From what he said He never heard about the real Jesus because it was locked into traditions of men. If he really heard Jesus loved him and understood it I believe He may have had a different outlook of faith.

rgcraig 08-05-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by onefaith2 (Post 1087233)
From what he said He never heard about the real Jesus because it was locked into traditions of men. If he really heard Jesus loved him and understood it I believe He may have had a different outlook of faith.

That's what I thought, but that doesn't necessarily mean he heard a message of Jesus of hate.

More likely he heard the message of can't do this, can't do that which is what he meant by the traditions of men.

I do agree with what you are saying though - he probably wasn't shown the love of God simply because of the way his parents were.

RandyWayne 08-05-2011 02:54 PM

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No doubt some are thinking "he just needed to pray through!".

onefaith2 08-05-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1087235)
That's what I thought, but that doesn't necessarily mean he heard a message of Jesus of hate.

More likely he heard the message of can't do this, can't do that which is what he meant by the traditions of men.

I do agree with what you are saying though - he probably wasn't shown the love of God simply because of the way his parents were.

Are you familiar with the fundamental baptists? It sounds like that is how he was taught. I'd sad its 99% them. They tell their people that once they are saved they CANNOT lose their salvation, no matter if they commit murder. The guy in the letter clearly expressed He did not believe in or would not serve a God like that.

I heard one IFB preacher say that if you believed you could lose your salvation, you weren't saved.


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