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Amanah 10-04-2011 04:56 PM

Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
reading Romans chapter 8 atm

It says anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
We need his Spirit to be raised from the dead in the resurrection. Also, we have to be led by the Spirit of God to be a son of God.

I think we need the HG to be saved. I think we know we have the HG because we spoke in tongues. But after that, we have to be led by the Spirit of God to overcome the deeds of the flesh to stay saved.

How can 3 steppers change their minds and become 1 steppers? do they think that you receive two different kinds of the Spirit of God? one to be saved and another to be filled?

freeatlast 10-04-2011 04:59 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
Good to know what you think. Jehovahs witnesses think...Mormons think....

Amanah 10-04-2011 05:59 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 1103278)
Good to know what you think. Jehovahs witnesses think...Mormons think....

whatever

Hoovie 10-04-2011 06:45 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
Amanah, Converts to One Step thought do not believe salvation occurrs apart from the Holy Spirit. In fact it must be recognized the Holy Spirit is active in the hearts of all who come to Christ.

MrsMcD 10-04-2011 07:26 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
I do not believe you have to speak in tongues to be saved.

houston 10-04-2011 07:37 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
PCI Lite

Scott Hutchinson 10-04-2011 07:43 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
The way I see it,there is no difference in receiving the Holy Ghost and being baptized with The Holy Ghost.I don't see a distinction between the two. If I understand 1 COR. 12:13 it is by one Spirit we are baptized into the body of Christ.

Norman 10-04-2011 09:44 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
Anyone who studies Acts chapters 2, 10, and 11 should see that various expressions are used to refer to the same experience. There is no scripture that says the Spirit "baptism" is different from receiving the Holy Ghost. The Bible does not teach that there are two classes of Christians; some Spirit-filled, some not. However, if you have really received the Holy Ghost, the fruit of the Spirit should be evident in your life.

Orthodoxy 10-04-2011 10:11 PM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1103298)
Amanah, Converts to One Step thought do not believe salvation occurrs apart from the Holy Spirit. In fact it must be recognized the Holy Spirit is active in the hearts of all who come to Christ.

Exactly.

I believe that anyone who genuinely receives Jesus by faith as Lord and Savior can only do so if the Spirit is working in his heart. At the point of conversion, he is "indwelt" by the Spirit.

However, there can be subsequent "fillings" or "baptisms" in the Spirit after their conversion. I do not believe that tongues are a requirement for salvation.

Amanah 10-05-2011 04:27 AM

Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orthodoxy (Post 1103330)
Exactly.

I believe that anyone who genuinely receives Jesus by faith as Lord and Savior can only do so if the Spirit is working in his heart. At the point of conversion, he is "indwelt" by the Spirit.

However, there can be subsequent "fillings" or "baptisms" in the Spirit after their conversion. I do not believe that tongues are a requirement for salvation.

without the HG seal of approval (tongues as evidence) the deal is off.
the HG seals the deal.


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