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12-15-2011 11:56 AM |
Re: Speaking from beyond the grave...
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
(Post 1120999)
Do you all believe in or think that people can contact or communicate from beyond the grave? Of course other than Jesus that is.
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We believe in a supernatural God. We believe in the immortality of the soul. We believe in angels. We believe in Satan. We believe in demons. We believe on tongues and spiritual gifts including miracles and healing. Why does this seem so far out for some?
Here's a question, if there is no possiblity of communication with the dead... why did God forbid it?
Deuteronomy 18:10-12
English Standard Version (ESV)
10There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer 11or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, 12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD. And because of these abominations the LORD your God is driving them out before you. I was once told that when attempting to contact the dead we open a door into the spiritual world. The righteous dead cannot be contacted. The wicked dead are bound in torments. However, DEMONS may hear and answer the attempt to contact the dead, mimmicking the dead. These are a form of familiar spirit. Also, when attempting to contact the dead these door ways open doors through which demonic spirits might escape the realms of Hell into our realm of reality.
Notice... when the witch at Endor conjured the spirit of Samuel for Saul... look at what transpired:
1 Samuel 28:8-25
King James Version (KJV)
8And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.
9And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?
10And Saul sware to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.
11Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.
12And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.
13And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. I was told that essentially the witch saw "spirits" (demons) rising up out of the groud as she attempted to contact Saul. I was told that these are the demons and that these essentially escaped the spiritual plane back into our earthly reality to "haunt" or what have you.
Here's something interesting:
Acts 12:14-16
English Standard Version (ESV)
14Recognizing Peter’s voice, in her joy she did not open the gate but ran in and reported that Peter was standing at the gate. 15They said to her, "You are out of your mind." But she kept insisting that it was so, and they kept saying, "It is his angel!" 16But Peter continued knocking, and when they opened, they saw him and were amazed. Did these believers think it was possible for Peter's spirit to return from the dead to warn them or communicate? Also... do the righteous dead exist in an angelic like state?
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