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Arphaxad 05-20-2007 06:08 PM

Sins before birth?
 
John 9:1 Now, as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
9:2 And His disciples asked him , saying, " Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind."
NKJV

Why would they phrase this question like that? How can someone sin before they are born? Or is there some kind of Jewish doctrine about future sins?

Yes, I know what the next verse says, but my question is not if he sinned, but why woukd they think that someone could sin before they were born?



ARPH :doggyrun

Rhoni 05-20-2007 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 121290)
John 9:1 Now, as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
9:2 And His disciples asked him , saying, " Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind."
NKJV

Why would they phrase this question like that? How can someone sin before they are born? Or is there some kind of Jewish doctrine about future sins?

Yes, I know what the next verse says, but my question is not if he sinned, but why woukd they think that someone could sin before they were born?
ARPH :doggyrun

Ignorance of God's law dictated by Phariseeical legalism.

:haloplug

berkeley 05-20-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 121295)
Ignorance of God's law dictated by Phariseeical legalism.

:haloplug

WRONG!!

berkeley 05-20-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 121290)
John 9:1 Now, as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.
9:2 And His disciples asked him , saying, " Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind."
NKJV

Why would they phrase this question like that? How can someone sin before they are born? Or is there some kind of Jewish doctrine about future sins?

Yes, I know what the next verse says, but my question is not if he sinned, but why woukd they think that someone could sin before they were born?



ARPH :doggyrun

They didn't think he could sin before he was born. This is from the "Berkeley International Version"

Rabbi, who sinned? Did the mans sin cause him to go blind? or Did his parents sin and he was born blind??

Arphaxad 05-20-2007 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121316)
They didn't think he could sin before he was born. This is from the "Berkeley International Version"

Rabbi, who sinned? Did the mans sin cause him to go blind? or Did his parents sin and he was born blind??

so how does the "BIV" render 9:1, I just went through lots of versions at Gateway and they all said blind from birth or born blind.



ARPH:doggyrun

Hoovie 05-20-2007 10:37 PM

Well I'm sorry, if that helps any....

berkeley 05-21-2007 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 121527)
so how does the "BIV" render 9:1, I just went through lots of versions at Gateway and they all said blind from birth or born blind.



ARPH:doggyrun

The bible tells us that the man was blind from birth. If the people knew this they would not have had to ask "...did the mans sins make him blind, or did his parents sin and he was born blind?"

:)

Arphaxad 05-21-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 121690)
The bible tells us that the man was blind from birth. If the people knew this they would not have had to ask "...did the mans sins make him blind, or did his parents sin and he was born blind?"

:)

The disciples knew he was born blind.

Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind.

not Rabbi, who sinned? This man? Or his parents that he was born blind.



ARPH:doggyrun

ReformedDave 05-21-2007 06:05 PM

Interesting reason that Christ gave..........

berkeley 05-23-2007 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 122425)
The disciples knew he was born blind.

Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind.

not Rabbi, who sinned? This man? Or his parents that he was born blind.



ARPH:doggyrun

Rabi, who sinned? This man? (and he went blind.) Or his parents that he was born blind!!!!


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