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jfrog 05-12-2012 06:05 AM

Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad?
 
So anyone care to explain to me what is wrong with endorsing gay marriage/civil unions?

Cindy 05-12-2012 07:55 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
It's like approving of homosexuality.

Dagwood 05-12-2012 08:05 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1161297)
So anyone care to explain to me what is wrong with endorsing gay marriage/civil unions?

Personally, I won't endorse it. Genesis 2:20-24 pretty much clears up that marriage was intended to be between a man and a woman. However, I'm sure many of us know where a conversation would go if we bring that very scripture up to someone who either supports SSM or is currently married to a SS partner. The whole "you're being judgemental!" statement would very likely be thrown in.

There's no judgemental anything being thrown in. It's Bible. It's the desgin God chose in order for His plan to be carried out. For me to endorse SSM would immediately contradict the foundation for a Christian marriage.

Now...

Here we are in modern society. SSM is heavily debated, discussed, and many times thrown in our face by the media and Hollywood. Such a heavy influence in those two alone. If someone were to consider SSM, a few questions would pop into my mind:

1) Obviously, "Why?"
2) What was the family structure like during childhood? Overbearing or passive father? Overbearing or passive mother? Gay siblings/relatives?
3) What was the spiritual foundation, if any, like? Consistent fellowship with other believers? Off and on fellowship? No fellowship at all? Influence is key.
4) What type of entertainment would I find? Frequent sexual content? Hate/disrespect toward people of faith, etc? Again, influence is key.
5) Did they just have a sudden change of heart, even though all of the above seemed like they were conducive to a Christian home?

Getting down to the heart of the matter, it would help to know where someone came from in terms of their raising to figure out why they'd consider SSM. To immediately respond with Leviticus and Deuteronomy accounts, etc won't help the other person, I can assure you. Yet, too many people do and wonder why no progress can be made in helping that person come out of their mindset and belief.

The best thing, IMO, for politicians to do is not endorse or deny marriage, period, and leave it to the churches and people to decide from there. I'm pretty sure folks on both sides of the aisle would disagree with what I just said. But, as I've said before, we let government decide what they'll allow/give, they'll also be the ones who can deny/take away. Kinda like what Thomas Jefferson said: "A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have...."

RevDWW 05-12-2012 08:15 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
Why is endorsing X bad, where X is something prohibited in Scripture?



aegsm76 05-12-2012 08:18 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
jf - what do you think the Lord would say about "marriage" between a man and a woman?

What do you think about multiple partner marriages?

Because that is where we are headed next.

scotty 05-12-2012 08:38 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
There is nothing wrong with endorsing it.......... in the political arena.

The government and what they do is out of our control, no matter how we vote. They will always stand at odds with the church. I wouldn't expect any different. Their goals in this world are not the same as ours so it really is irrelevant to attempt to protest what they do.

"as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord"

bbyrd009 05-12-2012 08:52 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
You might examine the Q the other way;
"Why is preventing _____ (hospital visits,
inheriting, etc, among gays) bad?

There are supposedly laws for this, and I'm
not quite sure why a power of attorney
wouldn't work? (but I'm the type of guy
who would not need one to go see my
SO in the hospital; this seems contrived-
-but I'm totally ignorant here)

for the record, I'm against gay marriage,
but prolly for civil union.

StillStanding 05-12-2012 10:10 AM

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I could accept gay marriage if I knew for sure that their agenda would stop there. The truth is that they will continue their pursuit until not only is the gay lifestyle accepted as normal, but wholly endorsed by society and government.

I think that the gay marriage agenda is a direct confrontation to those of religious persuasion. Many see the non-acceptance of gay marriage as the government siding with religion, and as an assault on their rights as a US citizen.

Once a "Christian' nation, our nation is slowly descending into a "non-Christian" nation. It is now open-season on Christians in the US.

Dordrecht 05-12-2012 10:14 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1161297)
So anyone care to explain to me what is wrong with endorsing gay marriage/civil unions?

It goes against the Word of God.

Plain and simple.

Hoovie 05-12-2012 10:44 AM

Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1161328)
It goes against the Word of God.

Plain and simple.

Yep pretty much. Just because a politician is non Christian (Obama of course, says he is Christian) does not mean it is OK. Lying and hating is perhaps expected among unbelievers, but that does not make it OK.


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