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Tim Rutledge 05-19-2012 04:20 PM

Apostolic 101
 
Only by repentance then baptism in Jesus name is ones sins covered by the blood of Jesus. & the curse of sin is lifted. Do people on this forum still believe that?

Cindy 05-19-2012 04:43 PM

Re: Apostolic 101
 
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Acts 2:37-40 KJV

Sam 05-19-2012 04:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 1163301)
Only by repentance then baptism in Jesus name is ones sins covered by the blood of Jesus. & the curse of sin is lifted. Do people on this forum still believe that?

I can't speak for anyone here other than myself.

I believe that a person is justified/saved/born again the moment he/she turns to Jesus by faith. I believe all that person's sins are forgiven/remitted at that moment, that the person is a new creature in Christ, that Jesus lives within them as the Holy Spirit, that they are placed/baptized/plunged into the Body of Christ, and that they are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of the redemption of the purchased possession.

I believe
baptism should follow salvation,
it should be by immersion if practically possible
it should be done in the name of Jesus Christ

I believe that there is an experience available for all children of God known by various terms such as
HGB (Holy Ghost Baptism)
being empowered by the Holy Spirit
being filled with the Spirit
being baptized in the Spirit
the Holy Spirit coming upon
the Holy Spirit falling upon

I am stating this as what I believe realizing that among Christians there are differences of opinion and that we will not see these things exactly the same. This is not posted for debate or for a put down. I'm just expressing my beliefs and not throwing down the gauntlet for some kind of debate.

Sherri 05-19-2012 05:11 PM

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I believe strongly in Jesus name baptism, because it's what we see in the Word and we will never baptize any other way. But I DON'T believe that everyone else who doesn't baptize just like us is going to be lost. Just because I have a truth that they haven't seen doesn't mean I should arrogantly condemn them to hell. There are truths that I haven't seen yet too, I'm sure. We are all growing.

AreYouReady? 05-19-2012 05:40 PM

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I am going to borrow what Cindy put as AFF's definition of Apostolic.

Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.


As speaking only for myself, I believe every bit of what is posted above.

I am thinking that maybe what a lot of dissension here is based on the definition of what holiness is? Some view it as a purely physical manifestation of the inwards called standards. Others view it as both inward holiness and outward manifestation of holiness. Still others do not believe outward laws of how to dress has anything to do with a holiness lifestyle.

That one would be me. Although I do not believe standards has anything to do with holiness, because I have been in churches that people stretch standards to the limit and are still accepted within their ranks.

Holiness to me is how one lives their life. Do not backbite, defraud one another, cheat, steal, fornicate, commit adultery (in other words obey God's 10 Commandments) avoiding emulations, wrath, seditions and other things such as loving one another that Jesus taught to us and Paul wrote about.

But someone, at some time decided what one should look like outwardly and make it a denominational ordinance for an inaccurate measurement about somebody's consecrated holiness to God. Here, I believe lies wherein much, but not all of the infighting

We have people here at AFF who want to reach out to all types of people, not excluding homosexuals in the process. Where would Christ's church be without those who are accepting that call to minister to them?

And if this forum wasn't accessible to atheists and agnostics to discuss Bible, where else could they go? Frankly, in my area of the country, I see no Apostolic outreach to the lost. What has the physical church become?

Yet, I became aware that in other parts of the country, some churches are in full-bloom Pentecostal revivals. We have spiritual feasts and famines going on.

I am missing the people who came and left in my short period of time of being here. Titus2woman brought a lot of goods to the discussions. Even ol Atlanta Bishop had a few good things to say. Yet I see others who hang around here but never join in conversation. I think the few times Michelow came here while I was here...she made me think about some things.

And Timmy....I cannot imagine this forum without him. He knows his bible as good as any preacher here and feels comfortable enough here to stay here.

Point is...we all got our reasons why we are here...hoping, enjoying discussion having debates and getting angry...it's all a learning experience of life. None of us never know what will be said that just might enrich our lives either.:icecream

And like Sam, I am not trying to start any debate...just sharing my thoughts.

canam 05-19-2012 07:22 PM

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yes !

Hoovie 05-19-2012 07:25 PM

Re: Apostolic 101
 
Yes indeed! I believe in repentance and conversion through faith in the shed blood of Jesus, the only atonement for sin. I believe the believer must submit to baptism in the name of the one who has called them and saved them.

Cindy 05-19-2012 07:34 PM

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:thumbsup

acerrak 05-19-2012 07:55 PM

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I will stand with sam some what, though i believe in baptism, I dont degrade or condem those who have been baptized according to matthew 28:19

seekerman 05-19-2012 07:56 PM

Re: Apostolic 101
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge (Post 1163301)
Only by repentance then baptism in Jesus name is ones sins covered by the blood of Jesus. & the curse of sin is lifted. Do people on this forum still believe that?

No. Because scripture teaches no such thing.


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