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Michael The Disciple

09-05-2012 05:40 AM

Oneness Doctrine:Going Deeper

If you accept that Jesus (Yeshua) is the one true God this is the next step, the next level of the truth. Answers the questions about "In the beginning was the Word".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQLTYoewJyY

Esaias

09-05-2012 08:01 AM

Re: Oneness Doctrine:Going Deeper

That was actually pretty good teaching, brother.

houston

09-05-2012 08:09 AM

That's too long. I have A.D.D.

Esaias

09-05-2012 08:39 AM

Re: Oneness Doctrine:Going Deeper

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1186729)

That's too long. I have A.D.D.

Download it and then play it back at 2.5x.

houston

09-05-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1186745)

Download it and then play it back at 2.5x.

I am going to rip the audio and listen to it at work.

Michael The Disciple

09-06-2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1186724)

That was actually pretty good teaching, brother.

Thank you Bro. This was the message that brought me into Oneness. It holds a special place in my heart.

Raven

09-06-2012 07:30 AM

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Always be aware that the capital "W" 's in John 1:1 and 14 were added by the Trinitarian translators. It would be good to also remember that the "logos", in their [translators] thinking, was the erroneous "logos" of Plato and Socrates which colors the writings of both Trinitarians and Oneness authors to this day.

Michael The Disciple

09-06-2012 02:08 PM

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John's intent was not to point the God fearing children of light to Greek Philosophy. He was talking about something from the Old Testament. Thats what the video is about.

DaveC519

09-06-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 1186944)

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1186979)

John's intent was not to point the God fearing children of light to Greek Philosophy. He was talking about something from the Old Testament. Thats what the video is about.

That's correct. Although there existed in the 1st ce. AD a Hellenized-Jewish "Logos" theology, the Apostle John's intent in his gospel was to re-capture the original Dabar ("Word") motif from the OT, and to re-assert it for a NT audience. The Scriptural "Logos" was God's immanent self-expression.

Raven

09-06-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1186979)

John's intent was not to point the God fearing children of light to Greek Philosophy. He was talking about something from the Old Testament. Thats what the video is about.

I'm not concerned with John's intent but the intent of later translators, of which King James' Bible is an example, of the influence that Plato and other Hellenists had upon what both Trinitarian and Oneness students believe today.
Hypostatic Unions and a Christ with a dual nature being foremost examples. Almost all oneness defense of their position comes as an antithesis of the Trinity based from a Trinitarian viewpoint! The early pioneers of the 20th century all came from Trinitarian backgrounds and tried to explain God's oneness, yet with a Trinitarian vocabulary.

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