Fiscal Cliff
 

If you don't know about the fiscal cliff, you need to....

http://money.msn.com/personal-financ...at-your-wallet

Re: Fiscal Cliff
 

NO POLITICS. we need to go off the cliff and let the tax cuts for the rich expire so that the house can pass a tax cut for the middle class withou raising taxes on the rich. OFF THE CLIFF!!!!!

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I bet you tax cuts for the middle class will never happen.

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Will never happen.


Its funny DM cries "OFF THE CLIFF" , yet Romney gets reamed when he says thats what should have happened to the auto industry, let them go over the cliff then rebuild and get it right.

Budget analyst say the rich man tax won't come close to helping the deficit. As it will cause businesses to cut back even more, layoff more people, thus removing more tax revenue, then they will have to raise taxes on more of those who have jobs...ie; the middle class.

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I suspect congress will pass something so taxes are raised on the middle class to a level where the people will accept it. We are slowly, slowly having our wealth (or food money) taken from us.

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Obamacare most likely is not about people having access to medical care. By law, hospitals and clinics that received federal aid were supposed to have treated people without insurance anyway. Somewhere, somehow, big medical have been allowed to skirt that law, then complain about having to absorb it even though they were receiving federal funds.

So what do people who are for socialized health think this is all about?

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The bold above is not correct. Hospitals are only required to treat emergencies.
They are not required by law to treat illness.

e·mer·gen·cy (-mûrjn-s)

1. A serious situation or occurrence that happens unexpectedly and demands immediate action.
2. A condition of urgent need for action or assistance:

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The post was not only correct, but highly understated.

Anyone going into the emergencie room for most illnesses that are above over the counter medication will be treated.

Unfortunately this also includes the usual dope heads with the never ending back and neck pain.

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Hospitals are only paid about .18 on the dollar for every medicaid patient they see....50 on the dollar for medicare.

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It is interesting to watch this play out. I expect the repulicans will cave and do somethign to avoid the cliff.

however, we hear republicans talking about flattening the tax code without raising rates, getting rid of deductions for the rich to generate additional revenue.

dems are saying no to this that they want a higher rate.

So you have to wonder what the dems want?
We know what Repubulicans want. they want rates to stay the same but are not opposed to increased revenue from taxation. Getting rid of deductions for the wealthy makes it harder for the rich to hide thier money.

Raising rates on the rich, but not doing anything to deductions leaves them well able to hide money.

So what is the dem end game? We have a couple of AF posters here who are dems so maybe they can shed light on this?

I await answers with baited breath.