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Dedicated Mind 11-26-2012 10:47 AM

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why isn't socialism compatible with christianity? the apostle's were socialists.

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Originalist 11-26-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1204107)
why isn't socialism compatible with christianity? the apostle's were socialists.

Nowhere did the Apostles command socialism. Nowhere do we find it past Acts 8 when the church was dispersed by persecution. Furthermore, nowhere does the Bible support the idea of God's kingdom being propagated by secular governments using the police power of the State to seize wealth from one person and give it to another.

Dedicated Mind 11-26-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1204112)
Nowhere did the Apostles command socialism. Nowhere do we find it past Acts 8 when the church was dispersed by persecution. Furthermore, nowhere does the Bible support the idea of God's kingdom being propagated by secular governments using the police power of the State to seize wealth from one person and give it to another.

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,


nowhere past acts 8????? what kind of argument is that???? i suppose we can throw out the gospels and the entire old testament also. what a farce and a phony. is socialism in the bible or not? yes or no?


individuals in a secular government could be agents in the kingdom of god bringing justice, salvation and wholeness in the here and now, not the afterlife.

MawMaw 11-26-2012 11:17 AM

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Not to me it isn't.
Don't understand why you
would want to use an avi of
this or the last you used?

Dedicated Mind 11-26-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1204127)
Not to me it isn't.
Don't understand why you
would want to use an avi of
this or the last you used?

both avis are fighting for justice for the poor, isn't that what the bible teaches?

MawMaw 11-26-2012 11:26 AM

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Again, I don't understand that type of
comparison thinking at all.

Dedicated Mind 11-26-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1204133)
Again, I don't understand that type of
comparison thinking at all.

this might help you understand if you are interested in learning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology

Sam 11-26-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1204107)
why isn't socialism compatible with christianity? the apostle's were socialists.

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

That was a temporary condition trying to accommodate the multitudes who had gathered in Jerusalem for the feast day and had remained. Synagogues in that day did help the poor and that attitude was carried on over into the church. We don't read that when Philip went to Samarai, or Peter to Cornelius, or Paul went to the many places he went that they established Christian communes in those places where the believers all live together.

Originalist 11-26-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1204126)
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,


nowhere past acts 8????? what kind of argument is that???? i suppose we can throw out the gospels and the entire old testament also. what a farce and a phony. is socialism in the bible or not? yes or no?


individuals in a secular government could be agents in the kingdom of god bringing justice, salvation and wholeness in the here and now, not the afterlife.

You avoided my point completely. Nowhere were the people commanded by the Apostles to do it. And we don't see it mentioned as such after the dispersal of the Jerusalem church. Nowhere does the Bible condone socialism? BTW, what commune do you live with? What group do you submit your paycheck to for re-distribution. And again I say...nowhere does the Bible support the idea of God's kingdom being propagated by secular governments using the police power of the State to seize wealth from one person and give it to another.

Dedicated Mind 11-26-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1204143)
You avoided my point completely. Nowhere were the people commanded by the Apostles to do it. And we don't see it mentioned as such after the dispersal of the Jerusalem church. Nowhere does the Bible condone socialism. BTW, what commune do you live with? What group do you submit your paycheck to for re-distribution. And again I say...nowhere does the Bible support the idea of God's kingdom being propagated by secular governments using the police power of the State to seize wealth from one person and give it to another.

if the bible doesn't condone socialism, where in the bible does god condone capitalism? if niether is advocated then socialism is a viable option for christians to support. why do christians have to be capitalists?


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