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Digging4Truth 01-18-2013 09:46 AM

Insurace & Taxes - Obama Style
 
I just saw this on facebook...

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My friend filed her taxes today and this is what she found out:
"If you do not have health insurance on yourself or your children, you will be penalized by them taking it from your tax return. It goes by your income. She did mine and if I don't have insurance then they'll take $190 from my taxes in 2014. In 2015 it'll be $690. It goes by what you make. Also, next tax year you will have to provide all utility bills and your rent."
Here we go folks. Makes u just love the government even more.
Ol' Obummer sure is a smart cookie. He set Obama care up so everybody just went on and on about how wonderful it was but he didn't make the cost measures that would affect his voting base come in effect until after the re-election.

The interesting part is that many of those who voted for Obama tend to be those without insurance and often those with nice & big tax refund checks.

How are they going to like it when their tax refund is taken away to provide insurance?

Cindy 01-18-2013 09:48 AM

Re: Insurace & Taxes - Obama Style
 
Uh oh, do we get a do over?

Digging4Truth 01-18-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1215381)
Uh oh, do we get a do over?

In 4 years. :)

odooley6985 01-18-2013 10:28 AM

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I wonder what the friend does if she needs to take her kids to the hospital? Does she pay out of pocket for it? If so, then she shouldnt be penalized. I think the people who use the emergency room for their healthcare and then skip out on the bill, thus making people who have insurance pay for them, are the ones who deserve to be fined. If you can afford health insurance but dont pay for it I do not feel sorry for you if you get fined. I really dont.

Cindy 01-18-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1215390)
I wonder what the friend does if she needs to take her kids to the hospital? Does she pay out of pocket for it? If so, then she shouldnt be penalized. I think the people who use the emergency room for their healthcare and then skip out on the bill, thus making people who have insurance pay for them, are the ones who deserve to be fined. If you can afford health insurance but dont pay for it I do not feel sorry for you if you get fined. I really dont.

Most insured people do pay out of pocket. But, to use the ER as a doctors office is wrong. Our co-pay is the same, but the amount withheld for coverage went up. Union contract, even though my husband is retired, I am still covered.

Digging4Truth 01-18-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1215390)
I wonder what the friend does if she needs to take her kids to the hospital? Does she pay out of pocket for it? If so, then she shouldn't be penalized.

But... even if that is the case. She will.

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1215390)
I think the people who use the emergency room for their healthcare and then skip out on the bill, thus making people who have insurance pay for them, are the ones who deserve to be fined.

It is a weak position when we make policy based on how we "feel" about who should or should not be fined. That is daytime talk show politics. Politics based purely on who we feel "deserves" a fine etc.

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1215390)
If you can afford health insurance but don't pay for it I do not feel sorry for you if you get fined. I really don't.

It doesn't matter though. There will be many who cannot afford health insurance and yet they will be fined for not having what they cannot afford. This is what happens when we cater to daytime talk show politicians and their daytime talk show followers.

The reality of this feel good pipe dream we all call ObamaCare is starting to rear its ugly head.

odooley6985 01-18-2013 10:49 AM

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What should the policy be? The reason for the individual mandate was to make sure people didnt skip out on paying for their hospital visits and to make people take responsibility for paying for their bills. I thought if you cant afford it and show proof you could get on medicare/medicaid?

odooley6985 01-18-2013 10:56 AM

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Also I question the truth behind that post. Individual mandate doesn't take affect until 2014

Digging4Truth 01-18-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1215398)
What should the policy be? The reason for the individual mandate was to make sure people didnt skip out on paying for their hospital visits and to make people take responsibility for paying for their bills. I thought if you cant afford it and show proof you could get on medicare/medicaid?

The policy should be that the federal government should not be involved in the American citizens purchase of healthcare. It is beyond the scope of powers granted by the constitution... if that matters to anyone anymore.

Most people these days don't even begin to think about whether any government entity has the authority to do this or that. They just hear somebody say something... then they think... that's a great idea... and then they are all for it.

As I said before... daytime talk show politics. It has no basis in reality. It is simply based on emotion and feelings.

Digging4Truth 01-18-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1215401)
Also I question the truth behind that post. Individual mandate doesn't take affect until 2014

That is the year mentioned in the quote. Don't worry. You'll find out for sure... in a few years.


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