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MarieA27 01-28-2013 05:11 AM

God can do anything, right?
 
We all here believe that God can do anything, right?

Then why do it seem that most people here, believe that God can't help us stop sinning?

While looking through the threads, and reading the posts, the prevalent theme seems to be all about how we can't stop sinning, we can't live holy, we can't be righteous, and whenever someone says that God commanded us to be holy, people end up berating that person, telling them that they're teaching false doctrine.

I know that we can't do it of our own selves or by our selves, out of our own power, but if God is here helping us, leading us and guiding us, lending us a helping hand, why can't we?

Michael The Disciple 01-28-2013 06:25 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by MarieA27 (Post 1217997)
We all here believe that God can do anything, right?

Then why do it seem that most people here, believe that God can't help us stop sinning?

While looking through the threads, and reading the posts, the prevalent theme seems to be all about how we can't stop sinning, we can't live holy, we can't be righteous, and whenever someone says that God commanded us to be holy, people end up berating that person, telling them that they're teaching false doctrine.

I know that we can't do it of our own selves or by our selves, out of our own power, but if God is here helping us, leading us and guiding us, lending us a helping hand, why can't we?

Yes you have perceived perfectly. The great majority of posters on AFF teach Christians cannot consistently overcome sin. They have been taught this deadly doctrine from every direction nowadays. Its the easy way like Jesus warned about.

Instead of dealing with what Jesus and the Apostles actually taught many times people here will begin to mourn over some Church Pastor doing them wrong. Come on AFF lets move on!

endtimer 01-28-2013 06:40 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1218014)
Yes you have perceived perfectly. The great majority of posters on AFF teach Christians cannot consistently overcome sin. They have been taught this deadly doctrine from every direction nowadays. Its the easy way like Jesus warned about.

Instead of dealing with what Jesus and the Apostles actually taught many times people here will begin to mourn over some Church Pastor doing them wrong. Come on AFF lets move on!

Amen. Occupied with playing the blame game. Refreshing to see someone on this forum not crying in their root beer.

Michael The Disciple 01-28-2013 06:43 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by endtimer (Post 1218017)
Amen. Occupied with playing the blame game. Refreshing to see someone on this forum not crying in their root beer.

Amen!

Timmy 01-28-2013 10:28 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
How long ago was your last sin, MtheD? EndTimer?

navygoat1998 01-28-2013 10:29 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1218114)
How long ago was your last sin, MtheD? EndTimer?

As soon as I logged into the AFF this morning:tease

Timmy 01-28-2013 10:54 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1218115)
As soon as I logged into the AFF this morning:tease

:lol

Aquila 01-28-2013 11:03 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by MarieA27 (Post 1217997)
We all here believe that God can do anything, right?

Then why do it seem that most people here, believe that God can't help us stop sinning?

While looking through the threads, and reading the posts, the prevalent theme seems to be all about how we can't stop sinning, we can't live holy, we can't be righteous, and whenever someone says that God commanded us to be holy, people end up berating that person, telling them that they're teaching false doctrine.

I know that we can't do it of our own selves or by our selves, out of our own power, but if God is here helping us, leading us and guiding us, lending us a helping hand, why can't we?

God isn't "helping us" to stop sinning. "Us" is the problem. God DOESN'T want to make YOU a better you. YOU must be CRUCIFIED. Your identity eradicated through faith, reckoning your new identity as being "IN CHRIST". Any improvement to "self" is "self-righteousness".

The questions you present are answered on the basis of soteriological understanding. It all depends on how one views justification, regeneration, and sanctification.

And here's another issue... people are so behavior oriented (works mentality) that they fail to grasp "nature". You see... even IF we disciplined ourselves to "behave" rightly and didn't "commit sin"... our very nature (with regards to our flesh) is still "sinful" and repugnant to God.

Aquila 01-28-2013 11:04 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1218014)
Yes you have perceived perfectly. The great majority of posters on AFF teach Christians cannot consistently overcome sin. They have been taught this deadly doctrine from every direction nowadays. Its the easy way like Jesus warned about.

Instead of dealing with what Jesus and the Apostles actually taught many times people here will begin to mourn over some Church Pastor doing them wrong. Come on AFF lets move on!

Michael, you believe in soul-sleep and Annhilationism. That's false doctrine... sin. It amazes me that you think one can overcome sin... and yet embrace it so readily in your own theological world view. ;)

Just last night I read of a Seventh Day Adventist (advocate of soul-sleep and Annhilationism) who had a beautiful near death experience on his death bed. It transformed the lives of his family as he peered into the spirit and saw angelic beings, loved ones... and a vision of Jesus Himself. Within minutes... he expired.

You will also pass through the valley of the shadow of death. And in that hour... you'll encounter a reality that you've denied all these years. Do you really want to wait until that hour to align yourself with Scripture??? Sadly... too many continue to embrace a mis-interpretation of Scripture that denies the spiritual realities of life after death.

kclee4jc 01-28-2013 11:11 AM

Re: God can do anything, right?
 
I believe in the ability and calling to overcome sin on a daily continual basis.


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