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ILG 03-24-2013 01:38 PM

Geoengineering
 
Interesting documentary on weather modification:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfJO0-cTis

Pliny 03-24-2013 03:48 PM

Re: Geoengineering
 
Conspiracy theory?

RandyWayne 03-24-2013 04:49 PM

Re: Geoengineering
 
"Engineering" weather is knowing the precise moment to flap your arms in your backyard in order to create a hurricane in Tokyo two weeks later.

Don't think we have that capability yet. :)

Pliny 03-24-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Geoengineering
 
chaos theory.

Lots of theories...

Praxeas 03-24-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Geoengineering
 
All we need to do is go to another planet and steal their weather control device...

ILG 03-24-2013 06:36 PM

Re: Geoengineering
 
Did you guys watch the documentary? I thought it was quite interesting.

MarcBee 03-25-2013 07:37 AM

Re: Geoengineering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1237414)
Did you guys watch the documentary? I thought it was quite interesting.

I watched 45 minutes of it (thanks.) Yes, interesting. I've been hearing about the chemtrail thing for about 12 years, and don't buy that part at all. I buy the part about big agribusiness wanting to make farmers (and everyone who eats their products) dependent upon them (...Imagine that, kinda the defintion of BIG business. Where's Teddy Roosevelt when you need him?)

Here's a (common) rebuttal of chemtrail vs contrail issue, and the second YT is a sarcastic sendup (if you read the printed captions.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7kV7MlN9Bc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAq7c0fZSWM

ILG 03-25-2013 08:47 AM

Re: Geoengineering
 
I watched both of the rebuttals. I didn't see any real substantive rebuttals to what was said in the documentary which I thought was pretty well documented. I definitely think Monsanto is terrible.

I have been watching the skies since watching this documentary and I do see two different types of trails. I can't deny that. So, I am not sure what to think.

Here is a goofy video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8

MarcBee 03-25-2013 09:16 AM

Re: Geoengineering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1237509)
I watched both of the rebuttals. I didn't see any real substantive rebuttals to what was said in the documentary


The contrails as continually shown in the "why" video have been happening just like that since the invention of jets. I'm not refuting their bigger claims (engineering seed sales and dependency) But if their whole theory depends upon the supposedly ubiquitous chemtrails, then at least parts of the theory are not true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1237509)
I have been watching the skies since watching this documentary and I do see two different types of trails. I can't deny that.

IMHO, what you are seeing in your evidence vid is one low-altitude contrail (which are largely condensation--creation of water vapor due to the stream of heat and exhaust from jet engine) contrasted with a high altitude contrail. The low level one is being dispersed due to low level wind shear. The higher one is just being born, so may or may not be visibly dispersed later on like the first one, dependent upon winds and air conditions at the (way) higher altitude. If you happen to know any commercial pilots, send him or her your second vid, and ask if they think those are two different phenomena.

<<Here is a goofy video:>>

Not only there, but often goofy people seem to like to use goofy background music. JMO.

ILG 03-25-2013 09:39 AM

Re: Geoengineering
 
Thanks. Not knowing much of anything about jets/airplanes it helps to know someone who does. There are three kinds of people. Those who knee-jerk That's a conspiracy theory! That's not happening! And those who knee-jerk That's definitely happening! I can see it! And then those who want the facts. I want the facts. That's all. And those are sometimes hard to find.


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