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Truthseeker 03-30-2013 07:15 PM

Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
I can't remember one message on grace taught or preached. You?

seekerman 03-30-2013 07:18 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1239050)
I can't remember one message on grace taught or preached. You?

Bout as rare as blood messages. Which to say is almost nonexistent.

Cindy 03-30-2013 07:18 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
Very few.

Truthseeker 03-30-2013 07:20 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
Grace was huge them of epistles to the churches why is it lacking in OP churches?

Cindy 03-30-2013 07:22 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1239055)
Grace was huge them of epistles to the churches why is it lacking in OP churches?

I don't know, it was different when I was growing up.

Scott Hutchinson 03-30-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
I've heard plenty about the grace of God from a former OP pastor. He recently resigned from pastoring but grace was a major topic of his.

seekerman 03-30-2013 07:27 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1239055)
Grace was huge them of epistles to the churches why is it lacking in OP churches?

Could be because of the view that it could turn into a license to sin. The grace covers everything viewpoint in other words. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds.

Then again, it could be because it might conflict with some of the three-stepper beliefs of some OPs.

Truthseeker 03-30-2013 07:38 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
I got a friend who is exupc pastor who has converted to radical grace doctrine.

Truthseeker 03-30-2013 07:39 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
Could this be why so many walk in condemnation and doubts of making it?

seekerman 03-30-2013 07:42 PM

Re: Do OPs have a grace problem?
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1239065)
Could this be why so many walk in condemnation and doubts of making it?

Could be. Fear of going to hell for the person who has turned to Christ is a great motivational/control factor. Take away grace and redemption by the blood of the Lamb and you have a good environment for a fear based, condemnation based religious system.


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