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Dedicated Mind 04-20-2013 01:17 AM
No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
 
A Justice Department official says the Boston Marathon bombing suspect will not be read his Miranda rights because the government is invoking a public safety exception.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3120333.html

Cindy 04-20-2013 08:09 AM
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Yep

n david 04-20-2013 09:59 AM
Don't agree with this. Nor do I agree with the warmongers Graham and McCain demanding he be labeled an enemy combatant to be kept out of federal court. He's a US citizen who committed a violent act like Timothy McVeigh. He should be tried in federal court just like McVeigh.

Digging4Truth 04-20-2013 11:06 AM
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Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people say this man will be executed etc.

No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.

This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.

Cindy 04-20-2013 11:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1244654)
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people says this man will be executed etc.

No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.

This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
:thumbsup

Margies3 04-20-2013 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1244654)
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people say this man will be executed etc.

No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.

This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
Just wondering who would be considered his "peers"?? Would they have to be from Russia? Could they be people who were born here in the USA? or would they have to have become American citizens? Seriously, I'm just curious. I could see this becoming a major sticking point in a trial - unfortunately.

Digging4Truth 04-20-2013 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 1244658)
Just wondering who would be considered his "peers"?? Would they have to be from Russia? Could they be people who were born here in the USA? or would they have to have become American citizens? Seriously, I'm just curious. I could see this becoming a major sticking point in a trial - unfortunately.
He is a legal permanent resident of the United States of America. His peers would be residents of the United States of America. We don't hold trials where we import jury members from another country. Even if an illegal alien stood trial for murder the "peers" would be other Americans.

I don't know of any situation where we deviate from that definition of "peers".

canam 04-20-2013 01:31 PM
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will be classified as enemy combatant no court appt.attorney or miranda

Praxeas 04-20-2013 01:42 PM
Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 1244646)
Don't agree with this. Nor do I agree with the warmongers Graham and McCain demanding he be labeled an enemy combatant to be kept out of federal court. He's a US citizen who committed a violent act like Timothy McVeigh. He should be tried in federal court just like McVeigh.
The reason why they want to not issue the Miranda and keep him as an enemy combatant is for possible intell from interrogations.

As soon as you read him his rights and he "lawers up", you lose that ability.

Praxeas 04-20-2013 01:44 PM
Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1244654)
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people say this man will be executed etc.

No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.

This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
Though he was a citizen, his brother was not and had possible ties to enemy combatants and spent the last 6 months (Nearly) in Chechnya. His Youtube account was plastered with Terrorist propaganda


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