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Aquila 04-30-2013 12:24 PM
The Apostle's Creed:
 
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 01:04 PM
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Having been raised Catholic I grew up saying this every Sunday in Mass. Even today I sing along with Third Day and don't feel any twinge of conscience for theological incorrectness. I can honestly say I believe it, every word.

And actually, we always said " One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church".

n david 04-30-2013 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246756)
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.
No. I know a lot of people are tripped up by the misinterpretation of #9 - "holy catholic church." They mistakenly believe it's talking about the RCC, instead of the "whole" or universal church.

Aquila 04-30-2013 01:26 PM
Re: The Apostle's Creed:
 
I've been thinking about adopting it in my devotional life.

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 01:36 PM
Re: The Apostle's Creed:
 
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246778)
I've been thinking about adopting it in my devotional life.
All I can hear when I read the Apostle's Creed is the low, chanted humming I became accustomed to in the Catholic Church. So, no, I won't be incorporating that into my devotional life. I might start lighting candles. :heeheehee

In my 20 something years in the Catholic Church, I have never attended a Mass where any congregation recited, "One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church". It was always "Holy Catholic Church".

We WERE the church. Man, that sounds familiar. :heeheehee

houston 04-30-2013 01:46 PM
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In the RCC I attended as a kid it was "holy Catholic and Apostolic church."

houston 04-30-2013 01:49 PM
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http://orthodoxwiki.org/One_Holy_Cat...ostolic_Church

larrylyates 04-30-2013 01:50 PM
Re: The Apostle's Creed:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246778)
I've been thinking about adopting it in my devotional life.
There is nothing in the Creed that is inherently unbiblical. For the most part it follows the biblical language very closely. It was originally known as the Old Roman Symbol (or Creed). It was certainly NOT written by the Apostle's. It is likely dated anywhere from 100 to 200 A.D. and has been revised over the years to meet various doctrinal challenges, until reaching it's final form near the end of the fifth century.

It does not teach trinitarianism and there is nothing really objectionable in the language, if we define the terms in the same way the Bible uses them.

(Source: The Oneness of God by David K Bernard. pp 280-82)

I see no problem, although I would not use it myself for several reasons. Those are my own. As I said, there is nothing inherently objectionable. Certainly, not from a biblical perspective.

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246791)
In the RCC I attended as a kid it was "holy Catholic and Apostolic church."
As a kid? I highly doubt you would remember the exact terminology used being a child.

I attended my father's funeral a few years ago and they were still chanting "Holy Catholic Church" during the Mass. What a horrible day that was for me to return so many years later for a funeral no less.

The Priest passes by our pew in order for us to receive Communion. We were sitting according to age, my oldest sister seated first. All 7 of us turned our heads to see what she was going to do. She shook her head no and he went down the line while we all put our heads down to refuse Communion. I'm sure my Aunt was highly ticked. :heeheehee

Esaias 04-30-2013 01:53 PM
Re: The Apostle's Creed:
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246756)
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.
"He descended into hell' can be problematic if the meaning of 'hell' is not clearly understood.

"The communion of saints" seems to reference the catholic concept of the 'church triumphant', ie dead saints who still maintain communion with us - that might be problematic if understood in that way.

The biggest problem is this creed is not 'the apostles' creed' but was a later invention. Start off with a lie and where do we end up?


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