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charity 09-15-2013 07:30 AM

Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Reposted from Dan Alicea's facebook wall:

Loren Yadon's Epic "The Tragedy of War" : On January 25, 1993, at the Landmark Conference, in Stockton, CA, Rev. Loren Yadon, nephew of an original General Board member of the United Pentecostal Church and teacher at Christian Life College, would speak truth about the intents of the his elders. He spoke of the "narrow mindedness" that had entered his ministerial organization, after the Westberg Resolution was passed at the 1992 General Conference, and instituted a divisive affirmation statement. A movement that has sought to silence a divergent view of salvation within its leaders.

It would cost him his job. His career. His error ... SPEAKING TRUTH.

https://soundcloud.com/lukeodle/tragedy-of-war

charity 09-15-2013 07:31 AM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
The remarks about the UPC start at the 23 minute mark.

houston 09-15-2013 07:44 AM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
It's old news. No one cares anymore.

Sweet Pea 09-15-2013 08:05 AM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Deleted my post.

Never mind.... I decided it is best that I don't get into a discussion on this thread.

jediwill83 09-15-2013 09:29 AM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Good stuff.

Baron1710 09-15-2013 12:25 PM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Old news...but historic...and prophetic.

Two major departures and one gradual exodus later they still haven't learned their lesson in the UPCI.

FlamingZword 09-15-2013 12:39 PM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by charity (Post 1275613)
Reposted from Dan Alicea's facebook wall:

Loren Yadon's Epic "The Tragedy of War" : On January 25, 1993, at the Landmark Conference, in Stockton, CA, Rev. Loren Yadon, nephew of an original General Board member of the United Pentecostal Church and teacher at Christian Life College, would speak truth about the intents of the his elders. He spoke of the "narrow mindedness" that had entered his ministerial organization, after the Westberg Resolution was passed at the 1992 General Conference, and instituted a divisive affirmation statement. A movement that has sought to silence a divergent view of salvation within its leaders.

It would cost him his job. His career. His error ... SPEAKING TRUTH.

https://soundcloud.com/lukeodle/tragedy-of-war

They simply shot the messenger.
The message still not getting thru, that is why the UPCI is in a decline and will continue in decline.

Jack Shephard 09-15-2013 12:59 PM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
A message can only cause a change when it is received by the listeners...

FlamingZword 09-15-2013 01:47 PM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 1275633)
Old news...but historic...and prophetic.

Two major departures and one gradual exodus later they still haven't learned their lesson in the UPCI.

Perhaps this is a good thing and we should encourage the hard core conservatives to keep on making even more resolutions, who knows with more departures and a bigger exodus, they might shrink enough to the point of becoming irrelevant. :heeheehee

Baron1710 09-15-2013 02:17 PM

Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1275642)
Perhaps this is a good thing and we should encourage the hard core conservatives to keep on making even more resolutions, who knows with more departures and a bigger exodus, they might shrink enough to the point of becoming irrelevant. :heeheehee

I have been gone from the UPC since shortly after the fallout from this sermon so I have no desire to tear down the organization. I do find it sad that so many of us were forced out by he hardliners when we would have been happy to stay but for the attitude that we must all believe the same on every passage and every issue.


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