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Originalist 09-25-2013 03:33 PM

The true goal of socialists
 
Socialism not only saps the current wealth, it also destroys the ability to create new wealth. The latter is actually the main goal of socialists, NOT to equally distribute wealth. We are seeing the socialists within reach of achieving this goal in America.

Obamacare will achieve this socialist dream like nothing else ever has. No new wealth means no new businesses which results in no new jobs. To my young friends who support the President, where will you work when you graduate from college if no new jobs are being created?

Sister Alvear 09-25-2013 05:01 PM

Re: The true goal of socialist
 
those in favor ought to have to stand in the lines here in Brazil...and then hope for a doctor...

odooley6985 09-27-2013 04:05 PM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1277826)
Socialism not only saps the current wealth, it also destroys the ability to create new wealth. The latter is actually the main goal of socialists, NOT to equally distribute wealth. We are seeing the socialists within reach of achieving this goal in America.

Obamacare will achieve this socialist dream like nothing else ever has. No new wealth means no new businesses which results in no new jobs. To my young friends who support the President, where will you work when you graduate from college if no new jobs are being created?


What real jobs are actually being affected by Obamacare? Im not talking about jobs and companies that have been hiring part time jobs long before Obamacare. Im not talking about McDonalds fast food jobs. Im not talking about Walmart. What jobs are being lost because of it?

The biggest job creators are small businesses with under 10 employees, next is under 20, next is under 30 employees (it goes on from there). These businesses can receive tax credits through the marketplace to help ease the burden of providing health insurance to their employees. Small businesses have historically had the hardest time providing quality coverage to themselves or their employees. only businesses with over 50 full-time employees who don't already provide health benefits to their full-timers will be affected by the "employer mandate". These businesses account for .2% of all firms in America. Most of the top 3% of small businesses polled said that the idea that ObamaCare would affect their job growth or hiring process was an "ObamaCare myth". Its not socialism. Its insurance reform. Romney himself said it wasnt Socialism. I dont like the bill for the sole fact that the Govt is making me purchase something and is using the IRS to tax it. Look at Massachusetts. Did they turn into a Socialist state after Romneycare?

Esaias 09-27-2013 04:15 PM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
http://www.lifeisajoke.com/Pictures/...-mao-obama.jpg

odooley6985 09-27-2013 04:17 PM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1278455)

Loser. No comments. No facts. Loser!

Sister Alvear 09-27-2013 05:37 PM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
those in favor should have been with me today...hospital but no doctors...lol...banks on strike for days now...post office on stirke for days....marches...burning tires in the middle of the highways....

odooley6985 09-27-2013 07:58 PM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1278480)
those in favor should have been with me today...hospital but no doctors...lol...banks on strike for days now...post office on stirke for days....marches...burning tires in the middle of the highways....

Sis there is no evidence that this will happen. Someone of course feel free to correct me with actual sources.

Light 09-28-2013 09:03 AM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1278480)
those in favor should have been with me today...hospital but no doctors...lol...banks on strike for days now...post office on stirke for days....marches...burning tires in the middle of the highways....

What do you expect? You live in a third world country where the majority of the officials from the President to the local policeman are on the take. A country where you are afraid to stop at red lights at night. A country where the top law official will kill for you. To compare Brazil to the United State or any other civilized country is ludicrous.

Originalist 09-28-2013 10:19 AM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
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Originally Posted by Light (Post 1278543)
What do you expect? You live in a third world country where the majority of the officials from the President to the local policeman are on the take. A country where you are afraid to stop at red lights at night. A country where the top law official will kill for you. To compare Brazil to the United State or any other civilized country is ludicrous.


We are closer to becoming Brazil than we have ever been before. I wonder what tune you'll be humming in the next few years when the government seizes 60% of your pay right off the top just to pay for Obamacare.

Originalist 09-28-2013 10:20 AM

Re: The true goal of socialists
 
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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1278456)
Loser. No comments. No facts. Loser!

So you have not been keeping up with the facts concerning Obamacare and its destructive nature?


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