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seekerman 11-12-2013 03:02 PM

Double Whammy
 
Not only is Jesus specifically saying that He's not God, He's giving yet another plan of salvation. I don't know anyone personally who follows this plan though, it's a difficult one.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Esaias 11-12-2013 05:57 PM

Re: Double Whammy
 
He did not say 'I am not God'. He pointed out that since 'none is good except God, why are you calling me good?'

Since YOU deny he is God, then why would you think he is good?

Luke 11-12-2013 06:03 PM

Re: Double Whammy
 
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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1286761)
Not only is Jesus specifically saying that He's not God, He's giving yet another plan of salvation. I don't know anyone personally who follows this plan though, it's a difficult one.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Two things should be pointed out as to the plan of salvation as you call it here.

First as this would still be old testament times of course Jesus pointed to the law and commanded it be kept for salvation.

Secondly the principle that one must live a righteous life so as to remain saved is still taught today.

No where in this passage does Jesus say He is not God rather by His question He is along the man if he is calling Jesus God.

seekerman 11-12-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1286792)
He did not say 'I am not God'. He pointed out that since 'none is good except God, why are you calling me good?'

Since YOU deny he is God, then why would you think he is good?

He's indicating that He's not good, only His God and Father is good. You're wishing to change the scripture to read that Jesus said, there is none good except for me. But that's not what He said.

seekerman 11-12-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1286796)
Two things should be pointed out as to the plan of salvation as you call it here.

First as this would still be old testament times of course Jesus pointed to the law and commanded it be kept for salvation.

Secondly the principle that one must live a righteous life so as to remain saved is still taught today.

No where in this passage does Jesus say He is not God rather by His question He is along the man if he is calling Jesus God.

Jesus only listed 6 commandments which were needed for eternal life, not mentioning the other 4. That's one of His many plans of salvation.

Jesus said only one was good, His God, and didn't point to Himself as that person.

Abiding Now 11-12-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1286792)
He did not say 'I am not God'. He pointed out that since 'none is good except God, why are you calling me good?'

Since YOU deny he is God, then why would you think he is good?

Oh WOW! Hey, Seekman, is that true? You don't believe that Jesus is God?

seekerman 11-12-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1286862)
Oh WOW! Hey, Seekman, is that true? You don't believe that Jesus is God?

Lordy no. I thought everyone here knew that.

Abiding Now 11-12-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1286867)
Lordy no. I thought everyone here knew that.

I'm a late bloomer.

seekerman 11-12-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1286870)
I'm a late bloomer.

You've been here since July! You should KNOW!!

Abiding Now 11-12-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1286875)
You've been here since July! You should KNOW!!

I don't read every thread and every post and I will confess that I usually don't read LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG posts, either. So I must have missed where you deny that Jesus is God.


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