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seekerman 11-14-2013 11:43 AM

Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
Must the baptizor say "Jesus" during baptism for the baptizee to be baptized in Jesus' name? In other words, does the baptizor impute the name of Jesus to the baptizee?

Esaias 11-14-2013 12:35 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
If to be baptised in someone's name requires or means that the person performing the baptism actually invoke that someone's name, then obviously yes.

If not, then perhaps no. Although, if one is supposed to be baptised in someone's name, but the person performing the baptism says something else, with intention to mean something and someone else, then there's a bit of a quandry, isn't there? For then the baptism is intentionally something other than what was supposed to happen... which makes it not a proper baptism...eh?

seekerman 11-14-2013 01:07 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1287296)
If to be baptised in someone's name requires or means that the person performing the baptism actually invoke that someone's name, then obviously yes.

If not, then perhaps no. Although, if one is supposed to be baptised in someone's name, but the person performing the baptism says something else, with intention to mean something and someone else, then there's a bit of a quandry, isn't there? For then the baptism is intentionally something other than what was supposed to happen... which makes it not a proper baptism...eh?

Is that a yes or no? :)

Esaias 11-14-2013 01:50 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1287309)
Is that a yes or no? :)

Of course.

:highfive

navygoat1998 11-14-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1287316)
Of course.

:highfive

:ursofunny

Praxeas 11-14-2013 02:25 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1287267)
Must the baptizor say "Jesus" during baptism for the baptizee to be baptized in Jesus' name? In other words, does the baptizor impute the name of Jesus to the baptizee?

Impute

1: to lay the responsibility or blame for often falsely or unjustly

2: to credit to a person or a cause : attribute <our vices as well as our virtues have been imputed to bodily derangement

seekerman 11-14-2013 03:15 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1287316)
Of course.

:highfive

That's what I thought. Marked for future reference.

:thumbsup

Originalist 11-14-2013 04:27 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1287267)
Must the baptizor say "Jesus" during baptism for the baptizee to be baptized in Jesus' name? In other words, does the baptizor impute the name of Jesus to the baptizee?

No, he does not. Baptism is more about submitting to the authority of the One bearing the name than the actual vocalization. Though it makes much more sense to vocalize the name IMO.

But of course this does not change the fact that baptism in most Evangelical churches is not taught correctly in that they teach it is simply some post new birth act of worship or obedience. Scripture teaches that baptism and repentance are linked. It's when you decide to die that you might live.It's the first step to becoming a disciple.

Abiding Now 11-14-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
Yes.

KeptByTheWord 11-14-2013 09:37 PM

Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1287354)
No, he does not. Baptism is more about submitting to the authority of the One bearing the name than the actual vocalization. Though it makes much more sense to vocalize the name IMO.

But of course this does not change the fact that baptism in most Evangelical churches is not taught correctly in that they teach it is simply some post new birth act of worship or obedience. Scripture teaches that baptism and repentance are linked. It's when you decide to die that you might live.It's the first step to becoming a disciple.

So true! The bolded is exactly how I see it too.


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