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OP_Carl 06-06-2007 09:23 AM

Appearance of inconsistency
 
There have been a couple threads here lately that have highlighted the apparent inconsistency in Pentecost that we preach against many of the addictive and damaging influences of the world, but we seldom preach or teach on gluttony.

That got me to thinking . . . . Fundamentalist Eastern Orthodox Christians and Catholics believe that birth control is wrong. The bible support for this stance seems fairly plain to me.

Why don't Apostolics teach on this topic?


Support for a stance against BC:

God's commandment to Noah to re-populate the earth was not rescinded.
Children are to be considered blessings from God is a consistent thematic element in the bible.
Many popular forms of BC are chemical abortifacents, i.e. they cause zygotes and embryos to be killed.

mis-applied support for a stance against BC:

The Lord slew Onan because he did not want to raise up children for his brother by impregnating his brother's wife, so he "spilled his seed on the ground." I believe it's fairly clear that Onan was slain for disobedience in general, not for what he specifically did.


What is the biblical support for the use of birth control?

Is it done via the principle of stewardship?

Or to avoid being "worse than an infidel?" (I Timothy 5:8) due to the perception that children cost so much money that more than two or three will induce deprivating financial hardship?

And yes, I'm well aware what curiosity did for the cat . . .

Steve Epley 06-06-2007 09:28 AM

I for one do not believe Planned Parenthood should be setting the model for the Apostolic Church.

Timmy 06-06-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 143336)
God's commandment to Noah to re-populate the earth was not rescinded.

Let old Noah keep at it, then! :lol

HeavenlyOne 06-06-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP_Carl (Post 143336)
There have been a couple threads here lately that have highlighted the apparent inconsistency in Pentecost that we preach against many of the addictive and damaging influences of the world, but we seldom preach or teach on gluttony.

That got me to thinking . . . . Fundamentalist Eastern Orthodox Christians and Catholics believe that birth control is wrong. The bible support for this stance seems fairly plain to me.

Why don't Apostolics teach on this topic?


Support for a stance against BC:

God's commandment to Noah to re-populate the earth was not rescinded.
Children are to be considered blessings from God is a consistent thematic element in the bible.
Many popular forms of BC are chemical abortifacents, i.e. they cause zygotes and embryos to be killed.

mis-applied support for a stance against BC:

The Lord slew Onan because he did not want to raise up children for his brother by impregnating his brother's wife, so he "spilled his seed on the ground." I believe it's fairly clear that Onan was slain for disobedience in general, not for what he specifically did.


What is the biblical support for the use of birth control?

Is it done via the principle of stewardship?

Or to avoid being "worse than an infidel?" (I Timothy 5:8) due to the perception that children cost so much money that more than two or three will induce deprivating financial hardship?

And yes, I'm well aware what curiosity did for the cat . . .

Noah had three sons. There is no mention of him having other children or daughters.

The command to re-populate the earth wasn't a universal one that included us today.

I don't believe people should have children if they can't afford them. I have known people who think they should have as many children as they can but are on welfare. That's wrong.

There is no Biblical support nor opposition to birth control.

Sheltiedad 06-06-2007 11:33 AM

I consider the population project a success already... all I have to do is go to the grocery store or anywhere else for that matter and I see the results. I do believe that this is one of the reasons why other ethnicities are slowly becoming the majority population though, because of their Catholic, etc. roots...

Adding... I believe that for someone on welfare to have even one child is irresponsible.

Carpenter 06-06-2007 11:43 AM

Removed

Sheltiedad 06-06-2007 12:03 PM

Was Carpenter's post a response to me? He's my friend and I don't want to offend him, so just want to make sure since it was removed.

tbpew 06-06-2007 12:08 PM

OP_Carl,
would you mind sharing what you are doing in regard to invention or lack of intervention in the topical area of this thread?

Trouvere 06-06-2007 12:17 PM

I have read numerous disclosures on the BC issue.Usually the ones writing it are men.I wonder if any of the women on this forum have studied it out.
I would be interested in their imput.:girlpopcorn

Scott Hutchinson 06-06-2007 01:00 PM

So does this Brother think it's a sin for a woman to get her tubes tied ?


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