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To introduce myself

Hi, I am a Christian, mother of five, and am interested in learning more about William Sowders and the oneness and "two ness" perspective. I've read several threads, and looks like a lot of information here!

Kathie

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Originally Posted by MondayMorning (Post 1329809)

I never heard of William Sowders. I don't know what a Twoness is really pertaining to this board at least

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Welcome
there are different beliefs here, but Twoness is not widely spoken in here.

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Originally Posted by MondayMorning (Post 1329809)

Hi Kathie, welcome! :wave
No doubt you are a busy lady with 5 children! :)

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The Oneness belief is that the Christ is both the Father and the Son, expressed perfectly in Isaiah 9:6.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

If Jesus is THE MESSIAH he must be the Father and the Son.

The Sowders group has been detailed by Steve Eply:

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James Sowders was the leader of a movement that began on the Ohio River beginning in 1914. He drew large crowds first their camp was in Elco, Il. then later they bought a large camp ground at Shepherdsville, Ky. he pastored in Louisville, Ky. The movement spread throughout the nation. Their main doctrine was the church was being restored using typology of the Temple being built on Ornan's threshingfloor. Thus any preacher was allowed to preach any subject but was questioned thus most services became long Bible discussions. Sowders dies in 51 his heir apparent was T. M. Jolly who had a church in St. Louis, Mo. & Eldorado, Il. They were known first as 'school of prophets' later most churches were names Gospel Assemblies or something similiar.
Their main tenets are:
1. Two Gods in the Godhead and yes they use the term Gods.
2. They baptize in Jesus Name however is a man belongs to an organization he cannot baptize in Jesus Name because he is not operating in Jesus Name but in the name of an organization.
3. They are the Body of Christ everyone else is Babylon.
4. They teach must must reach sinless perfection to be in the Bride. At one time this included not having physical relations with your companion.
5. The 144,000 is the Bride.
6. Sowders taught there is NO personal devil only the flesh is the devil.
7. The sin in the garden was sex between Adam & Eve.
8. No hell.
9. Three groups of people righteous- sinner those who have had some religious experience they will be given time to be saved at the White Throne-the ungodly the do not resurrect but die like a dog.
10. No one has the truth today only parts until the truth is completely restored on the threshingfloor then the latter rain will come and bring the church to perfection.

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:welcome You must be busy with 5 children!

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1329904)

:welcome You must be busy with 5 children!

well, I was, but they're all grown up and gone now!

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Thanks, Michael. I was largely raised in the message of William Branham, but left that some years ago after serious Bible study. recently, many comparisons of his ministry with that of Sowders have come out.

I would love to know more of specific prophecies made by Sowders or others in the School of the Prophets in Kentucky.

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Originally Posted by MondayMorning (Post 1329944)

I don't know much about either one of them. But I am thankful that the Lord was able to bring you out of that mindset, and indeed, the Word is able to set you free! Do you still have family in the Branham group?