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returnman 10-30-2014 02:53 PM
Changes within UPC (recent)
 
I have not attended UPC for over 4 years. Have things changed much in that time frame? What about recent resolutions? My guess is their actions are continuing to the left while the preaching still addresses issues with the conservative tone......like one of my former pastor used to say...."a lot of them preach it....but I enforce it."

Acts 2:38 man 10-31-2014 11:55 AM
Re: Changes within UPC (recent)
 
Latest UPCI 2014 Conference is on YouTube in it's entirety if you want to check on the content of the messages.

Sean 10-31-2014 12:19 PM
Re: Changes within UPC (recent)
 
In their articles of faith of 2013, they call all non tithers.."God Robbers"...I knew there was a catch to their org., it is all about the M O N E Y (the article quotes the O.T. Law of Mal. 3)


That must be changed

Sister Alvear 10-31-2014 02:04 PM
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Never been UPCI and never plan to be...However I deeply respect them....nothing bad to say....

n david 10-31-2014 02:24 PM
Re: Changes within UPC (recent)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1341605)
In their articles of faith of 2013, they call all non tithers.."God Robbers"...I knew there was a catch to their org., it is all about the M O N E Y (the article quotes the O.T. Law of Mal. 3)

That must be changed
First, it doesn't actually call them "God Robbers." What it says is "Do not rob God."

Second, to claim that just because the UPC believes in tithes makes them all about the money is wrong. Perhaps the claim would be believable if the UPC was the only organization, or one of a very few organizations which believed in tithes. But the truth is the majority of the main denominations believe in tithes.

Also, I know many in the UPC who are Pastors, Evangelists and District/HQ officials. They are definitely not all about the money.

I do agree that the position on tithes should change, however.

Sean 10-31-2014 02:38 PM
Re: Changes within UPC (recent)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 1341633)
First, it doesn't actually call them "God Robbers." What it says is "Do not rob God."

Second, to claim that just because the UPC believes in tithes makes them all about the money is wrong. Perhaps the claim would be believable if the UPC was the only organization, or one of a very few organizations which believed in tithes. But the truth is the majority of the main denominations believe in tithes.

Also, I know many in the UPC who are Pastors, Evangelists and District/HQ officials. They are definitely not all about the money.

I do agree that the position on tithes should change, however.



"Do not rob God", does not imply that those that dont believe in the idea are not God Robbers?

If I tell you..."do not rob God", because you dont tithe, what am I implying that you are bro???

Exactly...a robber!

Why dont they just make us non tithers wear black and white striped shirts to church?

Sean 10-31-2014 02:43 PM
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No matter what I did for the work of the Lord or what I gave, every week for 20 years I was called a robber from the pulpit with Mal 3(Law) as their text.

Rudy 10-31-2014 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1341634)
"Do not rob God", does not imply that those that dont believe in the idea are not God Robbers?

If I tell you..."do not rob God", because you dont tithe, what am I implying that you are bro???

Exactly...a robber!

Why dont they just make us non tithers wear black and white striped shirts to church?
Why don't we start our own churches? I'm to ill to start one now. I waited too long.

n david 10-31-2014 03:31 PM
Re: Changes within UPC (recent)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1341634)
"Do not rob God", does not imply that those that dont believe in the idea are not God Robbers?

If I tell you..."do not rob God", because you dont tithe, what am I implying that you are bro???

Exactly...a robber!

Why dont they just make us non tithers wear black and white striped shirts to church?
Granted, it's semantics, but it should be accurately pointed out. By placing quotation marks around the term you're showing it as a quote, which it is not.

Quote:
We believe tithing is God’s financial plan to provide for His work, and has been since the days of Abraham. Tithing came with faith under Abraham; Moses’ law enjoined it, and Israel practiced it when she was right with God; Jesus endorsed it (Matthew 23:23); and Paul said to lay by in store as God has prospered you. Do not rob God of His portion, viz., tithes and offerings. (Read Malachi 3.)

Sean 10-31-2014 03:35 PM
Re: Changes within UPC (recent)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 1341643)
Granted, it's semantics, but it should be accurately pointed out. By placing quotation marks around the term you're showing it as a quote, which it is not.


To me, if its in the by-laws, its quoted by the authors


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