Interesting SOF
 

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Another group of gentiles who have been judaized. I do NOT understand why English speaking gentiles feel the need to pretend they are Jews, tossing in semi-Hebrew terms in every other sentence, disobeying Christ's command NOT TO BE CALLED "rabbi", etc.

Otherwise, they are charismatic trinitarians.

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LOL...

They are inconsistent too. They first say "God" then leave out the "o" in G-dhead as if they are being reverent

But then they say YHWH but later use HaShem, which is what Jews say INSTEAD of YHWH out of reverence

Right after saying YHWH they say L-ord..

They believe Yeshua is God (Yhwh) yet don't do the same.. ie "Y-Shua"

Odd

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ok but i would not judge the people based on the page; i go to a church like this when in Jerusalem, and these are most likely very...alive believers. It struck me how embedded in the doctrine of OS we are, hanging out with more "Eastern" Christian sects.

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Alive? like... lively worship? what do you mean by that?

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hmm. like you could tell that these people were much less self-centered than me, somehow. They listen differently. They worship God more outside of church? Church to them is more a...an almost festive gathering of the like-minded, rather than some somber assembly gathering to introspectively dwell upon their sins. No one is codependent there, that i could detect--things we might call 'sin' are ignored, overlooked, and/or forgiven there; in such a way as to convict (me) of the sin, and somehow made me want to just shed it, rather than get into some apology session--just show that i had shed it, iow. They just don't point fingers at each other like we do.

The culture is different--much more oppressed, less money, everything costs more--so some of these qualities are of necessity, i guess, and come about simply because they have to rely on each other more just to survive (the offering basket was full of change)...but you could tell that the Spirit was working in them, in their lives. I have very few conversations about this there, it is more of a practice.

For whatever reason, "Christmas" comes to mind for me, lol--it feels like Christmas as a kid. We don't really realize it as a child, but mom makes Christmas...and you can, too, just with your spirit.

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Nothing of interest here. Plain old average Messianic type Charismatics with an emphasis on the Hebrew names or language. Im ok with both these things personally but they seem to be lacking truth in many areas.

THIS is major error from the git go.

YHWH was never considered a FAMILY! How ridiculous. The battle of Echad demonstrates how far Trins are willing to go to deny the truth of ONE YHWH!

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I believe that we need a revelation of Grace.

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Start a thread and teach.

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Eh, I have nothing to say that you guys haven't heard already. Doctrines of grace:

1. Election (God's choice of a covenant people to be saved according to His sovereign will, purpose, and foreknowledge)

2. Predestination (God's predetermined glory for His chosen Elect people)

3. Atonement (Christ's work of satisfying the demands of the law for all men)

4. Propitiation (Christ's satisfying God's wrath against the sins of all men)

5. Prevenient Grace (the drawing of the lost through the Holy Spirit)

6. Conversion (faith, repentance & water baptism)

7. Justification (imputed righteousness)

8. Regeneration (being born again of the Spirit)

9. Adoption (membership in God's family)

10. Sanctification (the act of taking part in the divine nature and the process whereby we are conformed into the image and likeness of Christ)

11. Death (the intermediate state wherein the soul of the saint of God is present with the Lord in Heaven awaiting resurrection & glorification)

12. Resurrection & Glorification (receiving a resurrected and transformed body in glorified form that is fashioned perfectly into the image of Christ)

And beyond these doctrines a life of living according to the "Law of Love" as opposed to the Law of God (Ten Commandments) or the Law of Moses (over three hundred laws given to Israel). The Law of Love (Law of Christ) demands only two things:

1.) Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.

2.) Demonstrate your love for God by loving others as yourself.