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Originalist 03-06-2015 03:18 PM

Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
Democrats know that as long as Boehner is Speaker,they still control the House....


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/23...n-coup-attempt

whoiskaiser77 03-08-2015 05:12 PM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1362604)
Democrats know that as long as Boehner is Speaker,they still control the House....


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/23...n-coup-attempt

They should realize by now that they will get more accomplished and destroy the morale of the Democrats if they would just unite behind the current House Speaker.

Jermyn Davidson 03-09-2015 10:25 AM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by whoiskaiser77 (Post 1362903)
They should realize by now that they will get more accomplished and destroy the morale of the Democrats if they would just unite behind the current House Speaker.


These are our fellow American citizens and you want to destroy their morale?

What's wrong with you?

Democrats are not our enemies, they are our fellow citizens.

n david 03-09-2015 10:42 AM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1362980)
These are our fellow American citizens and you want to destroy their morale?

What's wrong with you?

Democrats are not our enemies, they are our fellow citizens.

Yes, I would like to destroy their morale. I wish conservatives could defeat them. I don't want Democrats to succeed.

Their political beliefs are diametrically opposed to any conservative.

They may be our fellow citizens, but they are not our friends.

Jermyn Davidson 03-09-2015 12:41 PM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by whoiskaiser77 (Post 1362903)
They should realize by now that they will get more accomplished and destroy the morale of the Democrats if they would just unite behind the current House Speaker.

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1362982)
Yes, I would like to destroy their morale. I wish conservatives could defeat them. I don't want Democrats to succeed.

Their political beliefs are diametrically opposed to any conservative.

They may be our fellow citizens, but they are not our friends.

Destroy is such a strong and final word.

It doesn't seem that we should feel that strongly against any of our fellow Americans.

n david 03-09-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1362994)

Destroy is such a strong and final word.

It doesn't seem that we should feel that strongly against any of our fellow Americans.

We're not talking physical violence here, JD. This is just about their political beliefs and ideology.

If you're a conservative, you want liberal ideology to be defeated. You want it to fail and not to succeed.

Jermyn Davidson 03-09-2015 02:17 PM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1363007)
We're not talking physical violence here, JD. This is just about their political beliefs and ideology.

If you're a conservative, you want liberal ideology to be defeated. You want it to fail and not to succeed.

I want what is best for America. If liberals are in power, I don't want their initiatives to fail because ultimately that is not what is best for America.

It's like the 47 Republican Senators sending a letter to Iran telling them that whatever agreement they work out with the President won't last. What a TREACHEROUS thing to do to a sitting President while he is working out negotiations with another country. It is just plain terrible and nothing gentlemanly about it. And I think it is a toxic way to go about business.

In the situation I referenced, those Republicans really need to get past their hatred for Obama and work with the President-- especially when it comes to foreign affairs. They were WAY out of line for doing what they did. So dog gone DISRESPECTFUL!

n david 03-09-2015 02:54 PM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1363016)
I want what is best for America. If liberals are in power, I don't want their initiatives to fail because ultimately that is not what is best for America.

You make no sense. First, you say you want what's best for America, then say if libs are in power, you don't want them to fail. Those don't go together. Liberalism makes America weaker, not stronger.

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1363016)
It's like the 47 Republican Senators sending a letter to Iran telling them that whatever agreement they work out with the President won't last. What a TREACHEROUS thing to do to a sitting President while he is working out negotiations with another country. It is just plain terrible and nothing gentlemanly about it. And I think it is a toxic way to go about business.

In the situation I referenced, those Republicans really need to get past their hatred for Obama and work with the President-- especially when it comes to foreign affairs. They were WAY out of line for doing what they did. So dog gone DISRESPECTFUL!

It's impossible for you to see anything the Republicans do as anything but racist or hateful towards obama.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the US Constitution states the President may only make a treaty after consulting Congress and receiving the consent of a supermajority.

Your sweetheart wants to do his usual thing and try to cut Congress out of their Constitution power and duty. He's trying to claim he can use the sole-executive agreement to do so. Regardless, Congress has the right to modify or repeal.

These Republicans are simply confirming the Iranian's fears, that any SOE obama tries to make with them could possibly be repealed or modified by Congress or the next President.

So instead of bashing the eeeeeeevil Republicans for their racist hatred, you should ask why obama doesn't just follow the Constitution, consult Congress and seek their approval to make sure this Treaty is what's best for the US, not just something to make obama look good.

BTW, you claim to want what's best for the US. obama cutting Congress out of its treaty powers and duties is NOT what is best for the US.

whoiskaiser77 03-09-2015 06:51 PM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
I don't want to wish physical harm on most liberals but there are a few I would like for God to just wipe out. In fact, it would have been better for Obumma to never have been born than for him to be our President. I don't want him to get anything done.

Jermyn Davidson 03-10-2015 11:02 AM

Re: Democrats prop up weak Boehner
 
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Originally Posted by whoiskaiser77 (Post 1363065)
I don't want to wish physical harm on most liberals but there are a few I would like for God to just wipe out. In fact, it would have been better for Obumma to never have been born than for him to be our President. I don't want him to get anything done.

See this is the kind of attitude that pervades our country and it is not good for our country.


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