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deacon blues 11-24-2015 06:49 AM

African-Am Men Charged in Pastor's Wife Murder
 
Since we get a lot of reports here about Caucasians killing African Americans in cold blood, thought I'd bring some levity here with an article about the opposite. There won't be riots in the street. There won't be a rally with Donald Trump, or Rush Limbaugh, or Reverends Joel Osteen and Bill Hybels demanding justice and stirring up racial tension.

The truth is there is evil in the world. It's cursed by sin. White people do wicked things. Black people do wicked things. It isn't one sided. All have sinned. Politicizing every act of violence doesn't solve the problem of crime.

http://www.denverpost.com/nationworl...ce=infinite-up

Jermyn Davidson 11-24-2015 11:06 AM

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You know, I am just so tired of hearing about the crime and murders committed by black people. I don't know how it can be addressed and it frustrates me to no end.

Every time there is some heinous story, I read about it and on the inside hope that it wasn't committed by a black person. On the most heinous acts, sometimes I'm relieved (if that is even possible) and other times, my fears are confirmed-- another black person has turn to crime.

On one hand you have many white conservatives who watch the news, see the stats, and they lump all blacks together in their discussions about race and crime in America-- usually without mentioning that all races have their criminals because the crimes committed by blacks (usually against other blacks) is what gets reported. When they address it among their circles, it is never in a way that is conducive to actual dialogue and workable solutions are never discussed.

On the other hand, you have white, black and all the other races that tend to have a liberal political view point. They watch the news, see the stats, and make excuses. This honestly baffles me! They readily acknowledge that all races have criminals, but they refuse to specifically address the crime patterns that are associated specifically with blacks and in some areas Hispanics. OF COURSE THE RACE OF THE PERPETRATORS doesn't play some kind of genetic factor where blacks are just pre-disposed to becoming criminals, but in America, there is a serious issue with crime in poor majority-minority communities-- and it spills into the not so poor, and more affluent and more diverse areas. Liberals don't address the racial realities associated with crime in America.

As a black man, I don't do anyone in favors in sugar-coating the crime problems that permeate poor black areas and the black people that commit these heinous acts.

As a black man, when white conservatives address these issues, they really do come off as racially prejudiced, even if I suspect they're not.

As a black man, liberals of all races just seem oblivious to these issues.

It is just so honestly frustrating!

Most blacks are not criminals. Most poor blacks would rather not have their communities be unsafe. Everyone seems so powerless to address these issues.

So we don't address it because it's not a problem, right? It's not a problem until your family member turns to a life of crime, makes a boneheaded criminal decision that shames your family, or God forbid, until your family member becomes a victim.


It doesn't have to be this way, but it is and it has been for a long time (at least since my childhood).

There are just so many wonderful, productive, positive blacks in America, not just saying that either-- but the criminal element brings me great shame, yes shame and grief.

Some liberals even point to stats that show that the crime rate has been going down in urban areas and in majority-minority areas for years now. Even if that is true, the decline needs to happen faster.

I wish I could end this post with a solution.

aegsm76 11-24-2015 11:22 AM

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JD - I have spent a lot of time working with young black men.
One thing seems to be a big factor between their success and failure.
That is the influence of a father.
Now there are always exceptions, but that is how it seems to me.
I also offer no solutions.
One story offers an example.
I poured my heart and soul into a young man who was intelligent, talented, charismatic, everything that you could want him to be.
However, a series of bad decisions, influenced by family members, led him to jail, where he has been for about 7 years and has another 3 to go.
God help us.

n david 11-24-2015 11:31 AM

It's that rap junk.

And no, I'm not kidding. It's not the whole of the problem, but it certainly is a large contributor, along with absent fathers and poor family role models.

When you have rappers glorifying "gangsta" life, murders, drugs, loose women etc, it has an effect.

Jermyn Davidson 11-24-2015 12:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1406777)
It's that rap junk.

And no, I'm not kidding. It's not the whole of the problem, but it certainly is a large contributor, along with absent fathers and poor family role models.

When you have rappers glorifying "gangsta" life, murders, drugs, loose women etc, it has an effect.

It's the Jews.
(j/k)

Praxeas 11-24-2015 12:32 PM

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Im tired of hearing every new story being used for political/Social purposes....turning everything into a matter of race

Sean 11-24-2015 01:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1406777)
It's that rap junk.

And no, I'm not kidding. It's not the whole of the problem, but it certainly is a large contributor, along with absent fathers and poor family role models.

When you have rappers glorifying "gangsta" life, murders, drugs, loose women etc, it has an effect.


:nod

Fionn mac Cumh 11-24-2015 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1406780)
It's the Jews.
(j/k)

The people who run the entertainment industry, mainly zionist pigs, want things like rap music to represent black culture.

Jermyn Davidson 11-24-2015 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh (Post 1406791)
The people who run the entertainment industry, mainly zionist pigs, want things like rap music to represent black culture.

There have been several people who were influential in other areas of my life, who tried to tell me that the Jews were behind the scenes, encouraging immorality, a lack of respect for authority, and violence in the black America subculture.

I have always resisted the urge to blame "the Jews" or whites in general for every malady in our community.

Even if the record labels, advertising executives, and everyone else in the 80's and 90's and early 2000's were Jewish, it takes too much away from the individual's sense of responsibility to blame everything on Jews.

Whites encouraged the assassination of Malcolm X, but blacks pulled the trigger.

CIA/FBI may have funneled drugs into the black communities in the 1960's and 1970's-- but who made the individual use drugs in the first place? Who made the individual sell drugs to their neighbors?

Fionn mac Cumh 11-24-2015 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1406793)
There have been several people who were influential in other areas of my life, who tried to tell me that the Jews were behind the scenes, encouraging immorality, a lack of respect for authority, and violence in the black America subculture.

I have always resisted the urge to blame "the Jews" or whites in general for every malady in our community.

Even if the record labels, advertising executives, and everyone else in the 80's and 90's and early 2000's were Jewish, it takes too much away from the individual's sense of responsibility to blame everything on Jews.

Whites encouraged the assassination of Malcolm X, but blacks pulled the trigger.

CIA/FBI may have funneled drugs into the black communities in the 1960's and 1970's-- but who made the individual use drugs in the first place? Who made the individual sell drugs to their neighbors?

I hear you I really do. I used to think like that. But what do you expect poor and impoverished with little hope to do?


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