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Praxeas 12-05-2015 02:32 PM

Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/05.../?intcmp=hpbt1

The ISIS-inspired female terrorist in the recent mass killings in San Bernardino, Calif., reportedly entered the country on a so-called “fiancé visa” that listed a false or at least inaccurate foreign home address.

The woman, Tashfeen Malik, listed an address in her home country of Pakistan. This summer, she received her Green Card, which allows immigrants to legally live and work in the United States, according to ABC News.

The Department of Homeland Security did not respond Saturday to a Fox News request for comment.

The issue raises questions about the vetting process for immigrants amid growing concerns that Middle East terrorists could be slipping into the country.

Sean 12-05-2015 03:26 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
I believe that Isis will use the immigrant situation in the middle east to flood their "holy warriors" all over the globe.

We are better off helping them in their land, than bringing them here and taking a chance.

Sean 12-05-2015 03:30 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
This guy is warning us to open our eyes to the times we live in.....right here in the good ol' USA...

http://shoebat.com/

Sean 12-05-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
If you have a weak stomach, dont watch this...



http://shoebat.com/every-five-minute...ristian-lives/

Jermyn Davidson 12-05-2015 06:07 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1409067)
If you have a weak stomach, dont watch this...



http://shoebat.com/every-five-minute...ristian-lives/

Sean, so these are my brothers and sisters in Christ, but the Baptists down the street are deceived children of satan and on their way to hell?

Evang.Benincasa 12-05-2015 06:17 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1409143)
Sean, so these are my brothers and sisters in Christ, but the Baptists down the street are deceived children of satan and on their way to hell?

Only when they are getting killed by Muslims.

Jermyn Davidson 12-05-2015 06:37 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1409067)
If you have a weak stomach, dont watch this...



http://shoebat.com/every-five-minute...ristian-lives/

Many of these images do not show the death of Christians as I recognize them from other videos I have watched.

But if these people are not born of the water and the Spirit, as Apostolics present, then is it a situation of satan's children killing satan's children?

Should I help these so-called christians live another day so that they can spread their false doctrines?

When these people die, according to Apostolic doctrine, the only place they can go is hell. Apostolic doctrine demands this! There is NO GRACE for the believer in the Trinity! NONE AT ALL-- according to current 21st century American Apostolic doctrine.

So, if I provide help for them, it won't be because they are Christians because they are not saved and can't be Christian.

If I help them, it will be because they are human and it is in my means to help them.

However, there are millions of humans suffering over there-- all of them going to the same hell because none of them believe and practice the form of gospel as presented by 21st century American Apostolics.

If the Apostolics are right, I should save my money, pray for my immediate family instead, let satan's children kill satan's children, and pray for Jesus to hurry up and return.


Can't anyone else see that the form of gospel presented by Oneness Pentecostals absolutely prohibits anyone else who calls on the Name of the Lord from being saved?

It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone who isn't baptized in Name of Jesus, or Lord Jesus, or Lord Jesus Christ, or whatever other variation-- IMPOSSIBLE for them to be saved! If they don't speak in tongues, they don't have the Holy Ghost inside them and they MUST BE LOST according to Oneness Pentecostal doctrine!

So helping them would be the same as helping a Muslim and the same as helping a Baptist and the same as helping a Trinitarian Pentecostal-- they are all lost and going to the same hell anyway-- that is according to 21st century American Apostolic teachings.

They aren't brothers. Any appeal to help them will then appeal to helping them as humans, but like I asked, with countless millions of humans needing help, what makes these people special?

In order to be consistent as an Apostolic, the answer can only be, "nothing".

They are not brothers. They are not sisters. They are not any more special than any other third world citizen that needs my help.

In order to be consistent as an Apostolic, until they are baptized our way and until they speak in tongues, they are not saved, not born again, not Christians and ultimately, not special in a world with countless millions who are suffering and lost.

Do I believe this way? Nope, but it is why I can't be Apostolic.

I need consistency.

Jermyn Davidson 12-05-2015 06:51 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
Over 2,000 years of history, countless MILLIONS of lives changed and inspired by FAITH in the Son of the Living God, all of them dead and BURNING in hell because they never spoke in tongues, BURNING for an eternity because they weren't baptized as we present they should be baptized.

Millions in these modern times, confessing faith in the Lord and striving to live the life their biblical faith professes-- on their way to hell because our doctrine precludes everyone but us from salvation.

satan's children are gonna kill and be killed, if in deed they are satan's children.

I might as well save my cash for my church's building fund!

Jermyn Davidson 12-05-2015 06:57 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
A number that no man could number...

FlamingZword 12-05-2015 06:59 PM

Re: Vetting failure led to terrorism?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1409167)
When these people die, according to Apostolic doctrine, the only place they can go is hell.

Can't anyone else see that the form of gospel presented by Oneness Pentecostals absolutely prohibits anyone else who calls on the Name of the Lord from being saved?

It is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone who isn't baptized in Name of Jesus, or Lord Jesus, or Lord Jesus Christ, or whatever other variation-- IMPOSSIBLE for them to be saved! If they don't speak in tongues, they don't have the Holy Ghost inside them and they MUST BE LOST according to Oneness Pentecostal doctrine!

So helping them would be the same as helping a Muslim and the same as helping a Baptist and the same as helping a Trinitarian Pentecostal-- they are all lost and going to the same hell anyway-- that is according to 21st century American Apostolic teachings.

They aren't brothers. Any appeal to help them will then appeal to helping them as humans, but like I asked, with countless millions of humans needing help, what makes these people special?

In order to be consistent as an Apostolic, the answer can only be, "nothing".

They are not brothers. They are not sisters. They are not any more special than any other third world citizen that needs my help.

In order to be consistent as an Apostolic, until they are baptized our way and until they speak in tongues, they are not saved, not born again, not Christians and ultimately, not special in a world with countless millions who are suffering and lost.

Do I believe this way? Nope, but it is why I can't be Apostolic.

I need consistency.

That is baloney, I am an Apostolic and I do not teach what you are saying.

We do not condemn all other Christians to hell or say they are not really saved.

Just because we teach baptism in the name of Jesus does not mean that we automatically condemn all Trinitarians to Hell.

you are just blowing a whole lot of crazy smoke, you need to quit smoking that stuff from Mexico.


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