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Originalist 12-27-2015 04:26 PM

1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
So who was beind organizing 1000 "teens" to do this? Where were their mothers? Thanks to LBJ and liberalism, we don't need to ask where their fathers are.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mall-mayhem...ry?id=35963312

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2015 01:09 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
It is shameful.

It is so hard to address the racial situation in America with American black people. Too many of us are in denial and those of us who are not in denial really don't have any (public policy) solutions that do not involve massive government intervention. For me, I think much of what is happening in our communities can be addressed by revamping the public school system. Notice I said, "much" and not, "most" and NEVER would I say, "all".

The system of failure is in full force for many human beings in our communities by the age of 5.

I try to have discussions up here about what goes on up here and I get stuff like, "No neighborhood is safe", "crime happens everywhere", "whites kill people too"-- I experience these roadblocks often up here with various, random black people here in Cleveland. Some are friends and some are strangers, but many of them have the same retort, as if they've all been coached by the same loser.

I call their responses roadblocks because it is next to impossible to have a conversation about what is going on in our communities when we're convinced that what is happening in many of our communities is normal.

I do wonder sometimes if there isn't some vast conspiracy or something, enacted long ago, that intentionally or unintentionally brought black communities to the place where we are today. Planned Parenthood, cocaine, heroin, LSD and crack, decades of underfunded and understaffed schools, predatory lending practices-- all things brought in from outside of black communities that work to destroy black communities today.

Of course, people are responsible for their own individual actions, but how did drugs ever make it to the big cities in the first place?

Why are there so many Planned Parenthoods and liquor stores in black communities?

How is it that no one understands the GIGANTIC BENEFIT of proper investing in the urban population centers, where there are massive amounts of people that can add to the tax base (of the entire state) if the situations were better?

I know banks exist to make money, but surely someone sees the value in enacting policies that educate and lift the poor out of poverty instead of practices that keep them poor?

Those "Payday Loan" sharks should be banned everywhere!

It's not about just throwing money at these situations. For the things that government can and should address, the government needs to take a multi-prong approach that includes money being invested properly. For example, smaller class sizes are INFINITELY more productive than any other special program or initiative that I can imagine for a school setting.

Of course, a genuine faith in Christ would address so much more, but faith in Christ can't be legislated. I have attempted to address the issues related to public policy in our urban centers, where the largest concentrations of black Americans live, where poverty and joblessness rates are high, where crime rates are high, throughout our country.

commonsense 12-28-2015 01:24 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
JD, I'm probably not your biggest fan but this was well stated :highfive

There are lots of issues and there isn't a simple solution.
I will say the the single parent home and godless education system contribute.
And a biased news system that encourages young black teens to express their misfortune, poverty, unhappiness whatever key words attract the most support!

:aaa

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2015 01:34 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 1414966)
JD, I'm probably not your biggest fan but this was well stated :highfive

There are lots of issues and there isn't a simple solution.
I will say the the single parent home and godless education system contribute.
And a biased news system that encourages young black teens to express their misfortune, poverty, unhappiness whatever key words attract the most support!

:aaa

I would disagree with you concerning the godless education system. I don't think the "godlessness" of the public education system is that big of a culprit.

Just because a kid goes to a Christian school, doesn't mean the kid is actually learning. Besides, I'd rather have a scheduled moment of silence daily in a public school than to have a scheduled minute of prayer daily in a public school.

All of us indeed need Jesus, but it can't be legislated or forced-- through the public education system or through any other government mechanism.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2015 01:37 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
Much of the entertainment that is geared towards the American black sub-culture is so self-destructive and so is Pepsi! Neither one of them are making any major steps toward becoming healthy for their consumers.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2015 01:44 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
Who would lead the prayer in public schools today?

Are school systems going to simply not hire teachers who happen to be a member of a religious group that is not part of Orthodox Christianity?

Truthseeker 12-28-2015 07:10 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1414964)
It is shameful.

It is so hard to address the racial situation in America with American black people. Too many of us are in denial and those of us who are not in denial really don't have any (public policy) solutions that do not involve massive government intervention. For me, I think much of what is happening in our communities can be addressed by revamping the public school system. Notice I said, "much" and not, "most" and NEVER would I say, "all".

The system of failure is in full force for many human beings in our communities by the age of 5.

I try to have discussions up here about what goes on up here and I get stuff like, "No neighborhood is safe", "crime happens everywhere", "whites kill people too"-- I experience these roadblocks often up here with various, random black people here in Cleveland. Some are friends and some are strangers, but many of them have the same retort, as if they've all been coached by the same loser.

I call their responses roadblocks because it is next to impossible to have a conversation about what is going on in our communities when we're convinced that what is happening in many of our communities is normal.

I do wonder sometimes if there isn't some vast conspiracy or something, enacted long ago, that intentionally or unintentionally brought black communities to the place where we are today. Planned Parenthood, cocaine, heroin, LSD and crack, decades of underfunded and understaffed schools, predatory lending practices-- all things brought in from outside of black communities that work to destroy black communities today.

Of course, people are responsible for their own individual actions, but how did drugs ever make it to the big cities in the first place?

Why are there so many Planned Parenthoods and liquor stores in black communities?

How is it that no one understands the GIGANTIC BENEFIT of proper investing in the urban population centers, where there are massive amounts of people that can add to the tax base (of the entire state) if the situations were better?

I know banks exist to make money, but surely someone sees the value in enacting policies that educate and lift the poor out of poverty instead of practices that keep them poor?

Those "Payday Loan" sharks should be banned everywhere!

It's not about just throwing money at these situations. For the things that government can and should address, the government needs to take a multi-prong approach that includes money being invested properly. For example, smaller class sizes are INFINITELY more productive than any other special program or initiative that I can imagine for a school setting.

Of course, a genuine faith in Christ would address so much more, but faith in Christ can't be legislated. I have attempted to address the issues related to public policy in our urban centers, where the largest concentrations of black Americans live, where poverty and joblessness rates are high, where crime rates are high, throughout our country.


Prime example of always blaming someone else instead of being accountable for ourselves.

I have lived in a great neighborhood where I was only white that I know of. Why? Because they were good hard working black people. I guess the system missed them in oppressing them.


It's a lifestyle issue, until they acknowledge that around and around it will go. Every black person/friend I know of hard working character has done well for themselves.
Why is that?

Truthseeker 12-28-2015 07:11 AM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
BTW drugs finds it way to wherever there is a demand.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2015 02:59 PM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1414981)
Prime example of always blaming someone else instead of being accountable for ourselves.

I have lived in a great neighborhood where I was only white that I know of. Why? Because they were good hard working black people. I guess the system missed them in oppressing them.


It's a lifestyle issue, until they acknowledge that around and around it will go. Every black person/friend I know of hard working character has done well for themselves.
Why is that?

I don't think I am blaming someone else as much as I am trying to shed light on the fact that the current situation is dire and will not change without a multi-pronged response.

aegsm76 12-28-2015 03:00 PM

Re: 1000 "teens" ransack mall in Kentucky
 
JD - any thoughts on how illegal immigration has hurt the African-American community?


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