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Jacob's Ladder 03-07-2016 09:46 AM
God can prevent himself from being omniscient....
 
I've come to think that at times God can prevent himself from being omniscient.

I was reading my bible and asked myself an interesting question. Perhaps AFF posters, such as Praxeas, CC1, Pressing-On, Evan-Benincasa can weigh in on the matter.

Genesis 6:6 reads
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

After witnessing how wicked the human race had become, God had regretted creating humanity.

Now, for my questions,

If God was a constant omniscient God, why did God experience feelings of remorse about creating humanity?

After all, if He was omniscient while creating humanity, he knew what He was getting into when creating humanity. God would have known that humanity would become wicked.

Why feel remorse and/or feel repentant about a situation you already knew would occur?

thephnxman 03-07-2016 11:58 AM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder (Post 1425075)

I've come to think that at times God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
I was reading my bible and asked myself an interesting question. Perhaps AFF posters, such as Praxeas, CC1, Pressing-On, Evan-Benincasa can weigh in on the matter.
Genesis 6:6 reads
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
After witnessing how wicked the human race had become, God had regretted creating humanity.
Now, for my questions,
If God was a constant omniscient God, why did God experience feelings of remorse about creating humanity?
After all, if He was omniscient while creating humanity, he knew what He was getting into when creating humanity. God would have known that humanity would become wicked.
Why feel remorse and/or feel repentant about a situation you already knew would occur?
If God stopped being omniscient, He would not be God!

You don't understand. not knowing God's plan.
God KNEW man would sin, but His plan was for us to LOVE HIM
as He loves us: so He created man, to express His love in us!
God did not repent of His plan: it hurt Him that so many would
not heed His call. It hurt Him that man was hurting himself so
much. But it was the END of the matter that kept Him fulfilling
His love! You see, God also SAW that there would be those who
believed and obeyed.

Have you not read: "...who for the joy that was set before him
endured the cross, despising the shame..."What joy, you ask?
The joy of seeing us BELIEVE AND OBEY his will! Or have you
not understood that in the Garden of Gethsemane, when he was
pouring out his soul to the Father, Jesus asked for the cup to be
taken out of the way. But the Father allowed him a glimpse PAST
the suffering and shame of Calvary; even to the very day of our
redemption...and to our place with him in glory: and Jesus then
rejoiced saying:

"...nevertheless, not my will, but Thine, be done."

mfblume 03-07-2016 02:44 PM
God caused himself to forget our iniquities

Steve Epley 03-07-2016 04:04 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
Do you believe in open theism.

mfblume 03-07-2016 04:55 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1425103)
Do you believe in open theism.
How can open theism be true if He knows the end from the beginning?

mizpeh 03-07-2016 04:59 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder (Post 1425075)
I've come to think that at times God can prevent himself from being omniscient.

I was reading my bible and asked myself an interesting question. Perhaps AFF posters, such as Praxeas, CC1, Pressing-On, Evan-Benincasa can weigh in on the matter.

Genesis 6:6 reads
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

After witnessing how wicked the human race had become, God had regretted creating humanity.

Now, for my questions,

If God was a constant omniscient God, why did God experience feelings of remorse about creating humanity?

After all, if He was omniscient while creating humanity, he knew what He was getting into when creating humanity. God would have known that humanity would become wicked.

Why feel remorse and/or feel repentant about a situation you already knew would occur?
Have you read about Open Theism?

http://reknew.org/2016/03/when-god-regrets/

mizpeh 03-07-2016 05:06 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1425106)
How can open theism be true if He knows the end from the beginning?
God knows all things as possibilities but there are some things he determines.
http://reknew.org/2007/12/response-to-critics/

http://reknew.org/2007/12/response-t...m-evangelical/

mfblume 03-07-2016 05:07 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1425111)
God knows all things as possibilities but there are some things he determines.
http://reknew.org/2007/12/response-to-critics/

http://reknew.org/2007/12/response-t...m-evangelical/
Foreknowledge implies he even knows our decisions.

He foreknew those who would love Him, and he determined those specific people go through a process. That is the true sense of predestination. Not predestination of every individual.

mizpeh 03-07-2016 05:10 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1425103)
Do you believe in open theism.
Why does God regret? How can God truly be angry with Israel if he already knew that Israel would rebel against him in the wilderness? Is God acting? These are intelligent, thoughtful questions that you don't have to be an open theist to answer.

What do you believe?

mfblume 03-07-2016 05:11 PM
Re: God can prevent himself from being omniscient.
 
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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 1425113)
Why does God regret? How can God truly be angry with Israel if he already knew that Israel would rebel against him in the wilderness? Is God acting? These are intelligent, thoughtful questions that you don't have to be an open theist to answer.

What do you believe?
Have you studied anthropopathy?


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