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shazeep 08-13-2016 10:25 PM

What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
is it the James guy or what. You bite, CB

shazeep 08-15-2016 07:40 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
i have a next door neighbor who is eaten up with cancer, but she won't go to the doctor, because she is afraid that he will...tell her she has cancer.

shazeep 08-22-2016 04:48 PM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
https://www.raptureready.com/resourc...p/knap210.html

1. That no body of unconverted persons, no matter by what name called, ever was, or ever can be, the Church of Christ or any part of it.


and who determines who the "converted" are? Not you, essentially :lol

shazeep 08-23-2016 04:35 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
2. That the fact that a body of such persons may have the names of a few regenerate or sanctified people upon its rolls, does not constitute it a New Testament church, any more than a few sweet apple trees in a thorn thicket would constitute that field a sweet apple orchard.

wow the Church is actually given a nod here--those regenerate or sanctified people--and i suggest one contemplate that It is the only Church that matters. Paul spent a whole chapter in Galatians talking about how he avoided that NT church, little c there, notice; and dig how Paul got his v how you got yours, right there on top, hmm.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-galatians-1-and-2.htm

"'Surely', they went on, 'we cannot follow Paul if he is in a minority of one, and if Peter and the rest of the apostles disagree with him?'"

"...they only desired that they practice benevolence. To this Paul said: 'the very thing which I also was eager to do.'"

"Once I hear, believe and obey the gospel of Christ, I should never allow anyone to pressure me to compromise. Others may help me understand Bible teachings, and urge me toward deeper faithfulness and give me a good example of God-pleasing behavior. But nobody - no group of men; no elder, preacher, magazine, college or friend - NOBODY should be allowed to confer with me in such a manner as to cause me to pervert the gospel of Christ. Further, as a preacher I should be willing to establish that my message came from Jesus Christ (in our case, through the Spirit-inspired writings of the New Testament). I should be ready to give an answer, deal with charges and show that what I believe, teach and practice came from the New Testament of Jesus Christ. "There are times for thoughtful and even prolonged consideration, but where God's will is perfectly clear there is no need to consult men. Our first duty to Christ is a prompt obedience," (Pulpit Commentary)."

shazeep 08-23-2016 06:38 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
(actually the Cs are mixed up here, they have Capitalized theirs, the one made by men, "Church of Christ," while relegating the real one, "New Testament church," to a small c, so apply this before you apply that, i guess)

Esaias 08-23-2016 10:50 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
Do you usually ramble on incoherently in real life like you do here? Seriously, you aren't making any sense. I'm sure it all makes sense to you, but to others... your posts often seem like a bad reading of Joyce with every other page missing...

shazeep 08-23-2016 10:57 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
well, then maybe that isn't for you? You are welcome to read ahead, if you like; the link is all about UD, as will be explicitly stated here in a few. Don't know why an OP has not already jumped in here, i gave you guys a week.

shazeep 08-23-2016 11:04 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
3. That a body which was once a branch of the Church, but whose ministers and members have backslidden, is not the Church, even though it bears its name, any more than the bed of a river is still a river, when its waters are dried up.

I'm curious; if one group says "backslidden" and the other group says "hey, we are just following the Word of Christ," how is one to know the truth?

shazeep 08-25-2016 07:00 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
wow, a lot of the rest of this is actually quite inspired

Loyalty to organization or doctrine must not be substituted for loyalty to Christ. He who allows doctrine, or organization and ministers to usurp the headship of Christ in the Church, desecrates the temple of God by idolatry more inexcusable than that of pagan lands, because in the presence of greater light. In God's true Church His headship is recognized and obeyed.

trying to skip ahead to the "UD" part now, it's in there somewhere...

shazeep 08-25-2016 07:07 AM

Re: What is OP Universal Dominion?
 
"the farce of substituting baptism or church-joining for coming to Christ is a delusion and a snare. Sham churches coax people to unite with them. True churches point them to Christ, who alone can initiate into His body."


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