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good samaritan 09-14-2016 03:23 PM

purification after giving birth
 
Any one have any ideas why a mother requires 80 days of purification for a maid child vs 40 days purification for a man child?

mfblume 09-14-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1447346)
Any one have any ideas why a mother requires 80 days of purification for a maid child vs 40 days purification for a man child?

The concern itself had to do with fluids leaving her body that she sustained during pregnancy.

But I think the difference in sexes involves the issue of Eve being tempted and not Adam as the new testament brings out regarding teaching. That seems to pop up in issues like this.

good samaritan 09-14-2016 05:35 PM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
A woman at the end of her purification, was to bring a sin offering. Why is a sin offering needed for a brand new innocent baby? Of course it is through the sin of Adam. We come into this world adopting Adam's sin. Jesus tells us in John 3 we must be born again. The first birth we are born into sin, but the second birth we are born into righteousness. Thank God for the 2nd birth!!!

good samaritan 09-15-2016 11:01 AM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
I did some teaching on this subject last night and it went very well. One thing in particular that was brought up was the difference in male and female. When a woman had a male son it took 40 days of purifying and if it was a female it took 80 days. Whatever God's reason it is still God that commanded that there was a distinction put between male and female in their purification. Let's stir off into that a little.

I am a OP conservative that believe's a lady should not cut her hair or wear pants. Although, I think that we can be too intolerant on this issue when it comes to making converts. More importantly than the way we dress I believe that their is a rebellious movement that has been snowballing for the last century and probably sooner. It seems like when you make comments in regards to a male led home people start to squirm in their seats. Why is submission such a bad word in our society?

It isn't just a ladies problem, but men don't want to submit either. Ladies in the last century seem to have wanted to prove that they can do everything that a man can do. For the most part they can, but the question is should they? I recently read an article where a little boy said, "I can wear high heels." Of course the little boy could put his feet in high heel shoes, but that doesn't mean that he should. The philosophy we have pushed, you can be whatever you want to be, is so deeply rooted in our culture. People take that to such an extreme that they can even defy their natural anatomy.

The big issue that Pentecostals make (pants vs. skirts and long hair vs. short hair) is really just a small issue compared to the greater issue in our world. No matter what you wear, there are ladies that resent the boundaries that God has placed in their lives. These career women, who are liberal and independent, and refuse to submit to the roles in marriage. There are men who refuse to lead and provide for their families. Men who will not accept the role of a husband and care for their family.

People think that mothers should take a job and get out of the house so they will have the money to have more things. The houses are bigger, every member of the family feels they deserve a car when they are old enough to drive, etc... We are missing the the plan of God. Men should be the priests, providers, protectors of their homes. Ladies should be the helpers, keepers, nurturers of their home. The husband and wife should not resent their roles, but instead should embrace them.

I do believe that ladies should wear dresses and let their hair grow long, but I think this is just a surface issue. There are deeper issues that are destroying our families from within. We can get the surface cleaned up, but unless we clean the inside, the outward is really a waste of effort. I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I want men in our church to be confident and strong in the role that God has placed them. I want ladies to be strong and confident in the role that God has placed them. No person is more important then another, but we all are to submit to God.

aegsm76 09-15-2016 12:31 PM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
gs - I believe just as we have corrupted our church leadership/government, we have also corrupted our family leadership/government.
Now, I am not saying that this is keeping us from heaven, but I believe it is keeping the church from functioning as intended and is keeping our families from functioning as intended.

good samaritan 09-15-2016 01:13 PM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1447430)
gs - I believe just as we have corrupted our church leadership/government, we have also corrupted our family leadership/government.
Now, I am not saying that this is keeping us from heaven, but I believe it is keeping the church from functioning as intended and is keeping our families from functioning as intended.

:highfive

votivesoul 09-15-2016 10:25 PM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1447430)
gs - I believe just as we have corrupted our church leadership/government, we have also corrupted our family leadership/government.
Now, I am not saying that this is keeping us from heaven, but I believe it is keeping the church from functioning as intended and is keeping our families from functioning as intended.

Will you share more? More details? Examples?

I am interesting this point of view, and would like to hear it.

Thanks,

Aaron

votivesoul 09-18-2016 10:34 PM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1447346)
Any one have any ideas why a mother requires 80 days of purification for a maid child vs 40 days purification for a man child?

Patriarchy?

Seems to me that God has ever been attempting to teach the human race their proper roles in relation to Him first, and each other second.

The fact that God made Adam first, that Eve was assigned an assisting and not leading role in the tending of Eden, that the Messiah came as a male, not a female, and etc.

So, by stipulating that a law be a certain way as it pertained to the sex of a child, it helped support the view God took at the beginning of creation, that men are to lead, be the head of the wife, and etc.

allstate1 09-19-2016 11:14 AM

Re: purification after giving birth
 
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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1447346)
Any one have any ideas why a mother requires 80 days of purification for a maid child vs 40 days purification for a man child?

Who still follows this? More over who really cares??

mfblume 09-19-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 1447593)

Who still follows this? More over who really cares??

All in the bible is something God wants us to read. We need to learn why.


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