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A man is offered the chance for a promotion with his job but he has to move from one part of the country to another part of the country.

Within a year and a half of moving, the man's life seems to fall apart-- no job, no car, very few friends, and now he is sleeping in a basement of an apartment building.

In this situation, the man is not living in continual, blatant sin.

His life seems to have fallen apart.

Are things going badly for him because he was, "out of the will of God" with his initial decision to move from point A to point B?

I was tempted to say yes as I tried to counsel with this guy, but I can't think of any scriptures or biblical concepts that would corroborate what I was tempted to say.

Things are seemingly going badly for the guy and I feel bad for him. He has no family here. His father is from another country and his mother from America but neither of them can help their son financially.


Does the Bible say he is suffering because he is out of the will of God?

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Its called life!

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I think Jesus will meet that man where he is and help him get back on track, heaping condemnation on him is not going to help lift him out of the gutter.

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Was Job out of the will of God? Job lost all his children, his property and even his very health. His friends and his wife all turned against him, but he was never out of the will of God. Just because someone is going through a struggle it doesn't mean they're out of the will of God.

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Does the fact that someone is suffering mean that they are out of the will of God?

Has anyone in the will of God ever suffered or experienced trials and hard times?

Does being outside the will of God automatically bring trials?

How many blatent sinners you KNOW are going against the will of God seem to have every advatage?

I believe David wrote that "My steps were almost gone,my feet were well nigh slipped" when he saw the prosperity of the wicked.

I don't believe the "will of God" is some microscopic dot that you must stand on top of to be in exact alignment with His blessings.

Sinners have seemed to have been extremely blessed and saints have experienced great trials and tribulations.

It rains upon the just and the unjust.

Sometimes it's just life and sometimes it's because of unwise decisions that we find ourselves in the positions we find ourselves.

There were times I was going to church and pretty much doing all the right things and I lost jobs because I was either not doing the job correctly or I violated a policy.

It hurt when I lost my job and the reaction I had usually was to wonder why God had failed me instead of accepting that my actions had consequences.

Sometimes it's a lack of good judgement and common sense rather than a issue of being in Gods will or out.

If you want to help him I'd examine why he lost his job so if it IS his fault he can avoid doing it in the future...And maybe also help him find another.

He's probably super depressed and feels like a absolute failure and feels like there is no hope.

Be his strength...Speak wisdom and faith into his life...But dont just be His mouth..Be His hands and feet as well.

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Unless the Holy Spirit specifically gives you a Word of Knowledge or reveals through spiritual discernment that this man was out of the will of God.... I'd not accuse him of such.

Hard times fall on us all. Sometimes perfectly acceptable things and opportunities explode in our faces or fall apart. It is in these hard times that we need to draw close to the Lord and seek His peace and strength to endure the circumstance. Many times God miraculously turns things around in some unexpected way and makes things far better than they ever could have been if all worked out initially. It is in the hard times that we learn that God is with us and we learn to put our faith and trust in Him as being the source of our joy and our peace. I'd admonish you to be a friend to this person. Pray for him daily. Call him regularly and pray over the phone. Encourage him. Tell Him that God knows right where he's at and remind him that God has a plan, even if things don't appear to be going as planned.

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I agree. Some things have nothing to do with God's will. Life just happens.

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It rains on the just and the unjust.

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Excellent advice by all who have posted so far!

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