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JoeBandy 08-04-2017 09:34 AM

Personal statement of faith
 
I will start with mine since I am new. Ya'll can follow suit if ya wanna! I believe totally in Acts 2:38. Still a toss up if everyone will speak on other tongues as initial evidence. I do believe in striving for perfection, perfection being defined as maturing. I do believe in modesty. I believe modesty is a relevant term. I believe salvation is free for us because Jesus paid it all at Calvary. I do not believe there is a min/max amount of church attendance required. I do not believe in a min/max of prayer, fasting , or giving. I do not believe Holiness is defined as a dress code. I believe in the oneness of God. I believe in the man Christ Jesus and I believe in the Holy Ghost. I do not believe if one holds a different view of the GodHead they are lost. I have been UPC for almost 50 years. The church I attend would be considered conservative but not UC. I myself am more liberal.

aegsm76 08-04-2017 09:37 AM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBandy (Post 1493791)
I will start with mine since I am new. Ya'll can follow suit if ya wanna! I believe totally in Acts 2:38. Still a toss up if everyone will speak on other tongues as initial evidence. I do believe in striving for perfection, perfection being defined as maturing. I do believe in modesty. I believe modesty is a relevant term. I believe salvation is free for us because Jesus paid it all at Calvary. I do not believe there is a min/max amount of church attendance required. I do not believe in a min/max of prayer, fasting , or giving. I do not believe Holiness is defined as a dress code. I believe in the oneness of God. I believe in the man Christ Jesus and I believe in the Holy Ghost. I do not believe if one holds a different view of the GodHead they are lost. I have been UPC for almost 50 years. The church I attend would be considered conservative but not UC. I myself am more liberal.

So, basically you take one scripture to "work our your salvation".
Got it...
Let's just throw away all of those unnecessary epistles.
Don't know why they were written, all they needed was Acts 2:38.
Wow.

JoeBandy 08-04-2017 09:48 AM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1493793)
So, basically you take one scripture to "work our your salvation".
Got it...
Let's just throw away all of those unnecessary epistles.
Don't know why they were written, all they needed was Acts 2:38.
Wow.

The epistles are the perfecting part I mentioned. Was you too busy trying to read between the lines for an arguing point? What was Peter's response to the question "what must we do to be saved?"

TakingDominion 08-04-2017 11:14 AM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1493793)
So, basically you take one scripture to "work our your salvation".
Got it...
Let's just throw away all of those unnecessary epistles.
Don't know why they were written, all they needed was Acts 2:38.
Wow.

wow, shots fired... :throwrock:heeheehee

n david 08-04-2017 01:49 PM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
This is a good thread, JB. Hopefully it won't be taken off topic.

I've been thinking a lot about this, specifically regarding my family (wife and children). IMO, it's important for every husband and every father to both write down and instruct their wives and children on their faith and doctrine.

aegsm76 08-04-2017 01:56 PM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBandy (Post 1493797)
The epistles are the perfecting part I mentioned. Was you too busy trying to read between the lines for an arguing point? What was Peter's response to the question "what must we do to be saved?"

JB - based on your previous posts, I do not believe you have a coherent doctrine.
Also, you said nothing about the epistles being perfecting.
Rather, you stated about there not being min/max on this or that.
Which, is in direct contradiction to the Apostle Paul's writings.
Let just take two of your examples.
You said: "there is no min/max of church attendance required".
Paul said: "Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together".
So, obviously there is a min.
You said: "I do not believe Holiness is defined as a dress code".
Paul said; "women adorn themselves in modest apparel,"
So, obviously there is a dress code.
And I could go on and on.
The issue is that you make such broad sweeping declarations without any scripture to back it up.

JoeBandy 08-04-2017 02:15 PM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1493823)
JB - based on your previous posts, I do not believe you have a coherent doctrine.
Also, you said nothing about the epistles being perfecting.
Rather, you stated about there not being min/max on this or that.
Which, is in direct contradiction to the Apostle Paul's writings.
Let just take two of your examples.
You said: "there is no min/max of church attendance required".
Paul said: "Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together".
So, obviously there is a min.
You said: "I do not believe Holiness is defined as a dress code".
Paul said; "women adorn themselves in modest apparel,"
So, obviously there is a dress code.
And I could go on and on.
The issue is that you make such broad sweeping declarations without any scripture to back it up.

Geeeeezzzz can you read? I mentioned modesty and I mentioned perfecting (maturing). I guess I made the mistake of assuming that other posters would know what I mean by this. Plus You all know what scriptures I can use to back any of this up. This was not to be an argumentative thread.. I just wanted to state my beliefs and see what others here believe so I can kinda put a personality to each of you. Now if you want an argument tell me Peter's response to the question. Secondly Paul's admonishment about assembling had nothing to do with church attendance.

n david 08-04-2017 03:05 PM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1493823)
JB - based on your previous posts, I do not believe you have a coherent doctrine.
Also, you said nothing about the epistles being perfecting.
Rather, you stated about there not being min/max on this or that.
Which, is in direct contradiction to the Apostle Paul's writings.
Let just take two of your examples.
You said: "there is no min/max of church attendance required".
Paul said: "Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together".
So, obviously there is a min.
You said: "I do not believe Holiness is defined as a dress code".
Paul said; "women adorn themselves in modest apparel,"
So, obviously there is a dress code.
And I could go on and on.
The issue is that you make such broad sweeping declarations without any scripture to back it up.

Could we not turn this into a debate on JB's (or anyone's) personal statement of faith. The key word is "Personal." JB isn't suggesting anyone should follow his personal statement of faith. He's not suggesting it is doctrine, salvific or otherwise.

It's good to put together a personal statement of faith. It's good to know what you believe.

JB's personal statement of faith isn't subject to debate. It's his personal statement. I'm not saying that I agree with it, just let it be what it is.

What is your personal statement of faith? I'm working on mine and will post when I'm done.

Hopefully it won't be scrutinized as much as JB's! :lol

consapente89 08-04-2017 03:46 PM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
I have noticed Joe Bandy says "I believe" or "I do not believe" a LOT. However, seldom offers any scriptures to support his "beliefs". Mostly because there aren't any.

n david 08-04-2017 03:58 PM

Re: Personal statement of faith
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1493835)
I have noticed Joe Bandy says "I believe" or "I do not believe" a LOT. However, seldom offers any scriptures to support his "beliefs". Mostly because there aren't any.

Good grief, guys. This is a personal statement of faith. It's not meant to be an exegesis. It's simply to state what one believes.


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