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TakingDominion 08-29-2017 09:11 PM

IT
 
Let me preface this thread by saying that I do not have a television in my home, and I don't watch it on my smaller screens either.

This discussion isn't on the evils of television or Hollywood. I wanted to get that out of the way first.

Today, I happened to see a preview for the upcoming movie IT, based on the novel of the same name by renowned horror author, Stephen King. Now, if you haven't seen the trailer, I'm not advocating that you go search it out. My unintended viewing came via a sponsored ad on Instagram, and after I saw the trailer, I seriously considered deleting my IG account. The trailer, as I'm sure it intended to, scared the ........ out of me. Let me say, I'm not a fan of either Stephen King or the horror industry as a whole, although at one time I was an avid reader. Not being familiar with the story, I quickly read the Wikipedia plot line to get a better understanding of what was going on in the trailer. To summarize the storyline for those less familiar than myself; basically there is this evil entity aptly called IT that is terrorizing a small town in Maine. The evil thing takes on the forms of whatever it's victims fear the most, with it's most popular form being that of a very scary clown. This evil thing terrorizes the town's children every 30 years or so, with many children missing over the town's history.

Now that I've probably given everyone nightmares tonight, I want to pose the question; what is your opinion on whether a christian should partake of the horror genre, in whatever format? It seems to me that a story revolving around a great evil, committing gruesome acts of violence against small children, should most definitely not be in a Christian's library. I look forward to hearing your opinions.

PS, I HATE anything involving zombies, video games, books, movies, shows... nope

jfrog 08-29-2017 09:51 PM

Re: IT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1498230)
Let me preface this thread by saying that I do not have a television in my home, and I don't watch it on my smaller screens either.

This discussion isn't on the evils of television or Hollywood. I wanted to get that out of the way first.

Today, I happened to see a preview for the upcoming movie IT, based on the novel of the same name by renowned horror author, Stephen King. Now, if you haven't seen the trailer, I'm not advocating that you go search it out. My unintended viewing came via a sponsored ad on Instagram, and after I saw the trailer, I seriously considered deleting my IG account. The trailer, as I'm sure it intended to, scared the ........ out of me. Let me say, I'm not a fan of either Stephen King or the horror industry as a whole, although at one time I was an avid reader. Not being familiar with the story, I quickly read the Wikipedia plot line to get a better understanding of what was going on in the trailer. To summarize the storyline for those less familiar than myself; basically there is this evil entity aptly called IT that is terrorizing a small town in Maine. The evil thing takes on the forms of whatever it's victims fear the most, with it's most popular form being that of a very scary clown. This evil thing terrorizes the town's children every 30 years or so, with many children missing over the town's history.

Now that I've probably given everyone nightmares tonight, I want to pose the question; what is your opinion on whether a christian should partake of the horror genre, in whatever format? It seems to me that a story revolving around a great evil, committing gruesome acts of violence against small children, should most definitely not be in a Christian's library. I look forward to hearing your opinions.

PS, I HATE anything involving zombies, video games, books, movies, shows... nope

Sometimes when I'm sitting on my couch watching TV my dogs will start barking at nothing. I'm pretty sure that's what this is. A lot of barking about nothing.

A movie is not real. It's fiction. Owning or enjoying a movie like that doesn't mean you enjoy great evil committing gruesome acts of violence against small children. It doesn't mean you condone such acts. Just like owning or having read Mein Kampf doesn't make you a Neo-Nazi. Just like reading a Quran doesn't make one a Muslim.

I get finding the movie distasteful. The same applies to those books I mentioned. I get disliking horror movies in general, their gruesomeness can definitely be a turnoff. I don't get how you can make that dislike and distaste into a moral issue that suddenly transforms anyone that owns such material into being less of a Christian than you.

TakingDominion 08-29-2017 10:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1498238)
Sometimes when I'm sitting on my couch watching TV my dogs will start barking at nothing. I'm pretty sure that's what this is. A lot of barking about nothing.

A movie is not real. It's fiction. Owning or enjoying a movie like that doesn't mean you enjoy great evil committing gruesome acts of violence against small children. It doesn't mean you condone such acts. Just like owning or having read Mein Kampf doesn't make you a Neo-Nazi. Just like reading a Quran doesn't make one a Muslim.

I get finding the movie distasteful. The same applies to those books I mentioned. I get disliking horror movies in general, their gruesomeness can definitely be a turnoff. I don't get how you can make that dislike and distaste into a moral issue that suddenly transforms anyone that owns such material into being less of a Christian than you.

What do these mean to you?

29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.
32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.


9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.


21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Amanah 08-30-2017 04:06 AM

Re: IT
 
We have a TV, I don't watch it other than watching the news with my husband. He watches news and sports.

Other than that I do check out movies from the library. I attempt to choose movies that are positive and inspiring in some way, I like movies based on history and true stories. There are Hallmark movies and Christian based movies.

As a man thinks in his heart so He is. I want to cultivate a right attitude and a right spirit and I think what you watch and read contributes to that. I am also careful about what I read, reading mainly the bible and history.

I don't feel that watching horror movies is conducive to having a right heart and spirit and attitude.

Aquila 08-30-2017 07:34 AM

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We have a television. However, we don't have cable. Also, we rarely ever watch syndicated television. I get most of my news off of the internet. For the television we have an Amazon Fire Stick that allows us to stream virtually anything over the internet on our television from sporting events to nearly any television series (past or present), and typically any movie you can imagine, even those currently in theaters. The Fire Stick allows us to pick and choose everything we watch, and so it allows us to preview or review the content of everything we choose to watch. We especially like to stream older television shows. We're big on Star Trek. If we watch a movie, we normally make popcorn and stream it on a weekend because time doesn't allow us to do much television viewing during the week. Over the Summer we streamed a lot of kid's shows, Discovery, and educational things for the kids.

As for horror and Stephen King. I'll be honest... I love Stephen King's work. But let me explain. One of my dreams from childhood was to be an author. When it comes to King, he's a master of the art. His use of the English language to convey the exact emotion he desires is a talent to be greatly respected. In fact, the only real "horror" novels I've read and enjoyed were written by King but I haven't read anything of his for several years now. The last Stephen King book I read was the older title, Thinner. For me, a great deal of the enjoyment is his style and technique.

The majority of what I read is non-fiction (religion/spirituality). But when I'm in the mood for fiction I prefer science fiction and fantasy.

I don't watch a lot of movies. I think I watch maybe one movie every two weeks or so on average. When I watch a movie I enjoy science fiction, fantasy, organized crime, romantic comedies, thrillers, and ancient mysteries/adventure. In my years I've enjoyed a few horror movies, but they aren't a favorite. The horror movies I enjoyed most were built more around the paranormal, not blood and gore. I'm not into gore. I also don't like war movies.

As a Christian, I think we do well be cautious about our entertainment. In our media driven high tech society it can be a challenge.

You asked about a Christian library. It wouldn't bother me if a believer had the works of various authors from many different genres (including horror) in their home library . But if they had a movie library filled with violence, blood, and gore horror... something about that would bother me.

TakingDominion 08-30-2017 07:55 AM

Re: IT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1498253)
We have a television. However, we don't have cable. Also, we rarely ever watch syndicated television. I get most of my news off of the internet. For the television we have an Amazon Fire Stick that allows us to stream virtually anything over the internet on our television from sporting events to nearly any television series (past or present), and typically any movie you can imagine, even those currently in theaters. The Fire Stick allows us to pick and choose everything we watch, and so it allows us to preview or review the content of everything we choose to watch. We especially like to stream older television shows. We're big on Star Trek. If we watch a movie, we normally make popcorn and stream it on a weekend because time doesn't allow us to do much television viewing during the week. Over the Summer we streamed a lot of kid's shows, Discovery, and educational things for the kids.

As for horror and Stephen King. I'll be honest... I love Stephen King's work. But let me explain. One of my dreams from childhood was to be an author. When it comes to King, he's a master of the art. His use of the English language to convey the exact emotion he desires is a talent to be greatly respected. In fact, the only real "horror" novels I've read and enjoyed were written by King but I haven't read anything of his for several years now. The last Stephen King book I read was the older title, Thinner. For me, a great deal of the enjoyment is his style and technique.

The majority of what I read is non-fiction (religion/spirituality). But when I'm in the mood for fiction I prefer science fiction and fantasy.

I don't watch a lot of movies. I think I watch maybe one movie every two weeks or so on average. When I watch a movie I enjoy science fiction, fantasy, organized crime, romantic comedies, thrillers, and ancient mysteries/adventure. In my years I've enjoyed a few horror movies, but they aren't a favorite. The horror movies I enjoyed most were built more around the paranormal, not blood and gore. I'm not into gore. I also don't like war movies.

As a Christian, I think we do well be cautious about our entertainment. In our media driven high tech society it can be a challenge.

You asked about a Christian library. It wouldn't bother me if a believer had the works of various authors from many different genres (including horror) in their home library . But if they had a movie library filled with violence, blood, and gore horror... something about that would bother me.

Has anyone read any Ted Dekker books? I think he's the closest I know to a "Christian" horror author. I used to be read a lot of Dean Kuntz's books, but I haven't read a non-fiction novel in years.

I agree in this world of streaming services and video technology, the Christian should guard what is allowed in your home for entertainment. I have 3 small children, and it blows my mind when I think about what will be at their fingertips in a few short years. I just listened to a Cody Marks message," Take Heed to Thyself, and to the Doctrine." Highly recommended for anyone.

consapente89 08-30-2017 08:20 AM

Re: IT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1498257)
Has anyone read any Ted Dekker books? I think he's the closest I know to a "Christian" horror author. I used to be read a lot of Dean Kuntz's books, but I haven't read a non-fiction novel in years.

I agree in this world of streaming services and video technology, the Christian should guard what is allowed in your home for entertainment. I have 3 small children, and it blows my mind when I think about what will be at their fingertips in a few short years. I just listened to a Cody Marks message," Take Heed to Thyself, and to the Doctrine." Highly recommended for anyone.

I attempted to read through a couple Ted Dekker books 4 or 5 years ago. Don't think I ever made it through more than 2 chapters. I don't care for his writing style his obsession with "dark things" is disturbing. In my opinion, darkness should not be entertaining or bring enjoyment to the Christian.

I Thessalonians 5:5
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness

JoeBandy 08-30-2017 09:14 AM

Re: IT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1498230)
Let me preface this thread by saying that I do not have a television in my home, and I don't watch it on my smaller screens either.

This discussion isn't on the evils of television or Hollywood. I wanted to get that out of the way first.

Today, I happened to see a preview for the upcoming movie IT, based on the novel of the same name by renowned horror author, Stephen King. Now, if you haven't seen the trailer, I'm not advocating that you go search it out. My unintended viewing came via a sponsored ad on Instagram, and after I saw the trailer, I seriously considered deleting my IG account. The trailer, as I'm sure it intended to, scared the ........ out of me. Let me say, I'm not a fan of either Stephen King or the horror industry as a whole, although at one time I was an avid reader. Not being familiar with the story, I quickly read the Wikipedia plot line to get a better understanding of what was going on in the trailer. To summarize the storyline for those less familiar than myself; basically there is this evil entity aptly called IT that is terrorizing a small town in Maine. The evil thing takes on the forms of whatever it's victims fear the most, with it's most popular form being that of a very scary clown. This evil thing terrorizes the town's children every 30 years or so, with many children missing over the town's history.

Now that I've probably given everyone nightmares tonight, I want to pose the question; what is your opinion on whether a christian should partake of the horror genre, in whatever format? It seems to me that a story revolving around a great evil, committing gruesome acts of violence against small children, should most definitely not be in a Christian's library. I look forward to hearing your opinions.

PS, I HATE anything involving zombies, video games, books, movies, shows... nope

Its just a movie! Is it any worse than watching Josey Wales go on a revenge killing spree? Horror is not really my thing I think its all kinda silly.

TakingDominion 08-30-2017 09:57 AM

Re: IT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBandy (Post 1498269)
Its just a movie! Is it any worse than watching Josey Wales go on a revenge killing spree? Horror is not really my thing I think its all kinda silly.

Forgive me, but who is Josey Wales?

JoeBandy 08-30-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1498276)
Forgive me, but who is Josey Wales?

Another FICTITOUS old west gunslinging character played by Clint Eastwood.


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