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Esaias 01-08-2018 11:31 PM

Do angels have free will?
 
Yes or no?

Prove it. Show your work. :)

mizpeh 01-09-2018 12:54 AM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
Yes, they rebelled against God.

Esaias 01-09-2018 01:26 AM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
That doesn't prove they have free will, though.

Amanah 01-09-2018 05:42 AM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
The scriptures below seem to show Angels making choices, and being judged for incorrect choices.


Jude 1:6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2 Peter 2:4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Matthew 25:41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 12:7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

1 Corinthians 6:3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Evang.Benincasa 01-09-2018 06:28 AM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
Jude 1:6 states that the angels who had sinned were judged. If they had no freewill then their judgement is based on what? They would've only been like a Manchurian Candidate, just waiting for the operator to flip the buzz switch.

Aquila 01-09-2018 08:11 AM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1515428)
The scriptures below seem to show Angels making choices, and being judged for incorrect choices.


Jude 1:6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

2 Peter 2:4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Matthew 25:41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 12:7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

1 Corinthians 6:3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

:thumbsup :yourock

Esaias 01-09-2018 01:47 PM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
Are "the angels which sinned" non-human heavenly beings?

Aquila 01-09-2018 02:02 PM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1515532)
Are "the angels which sinned" non-human heavenly beings?

Peter and Jude calls them "angels". Angels are spirits. I don't see why they would be anything other than fallen angels.

My question is... both Peter and Jude don't go into any explanation, therefore, it appears that Peter and Jude write of these angels as though their readers would have understood what they meant. Since the Scripture states that they "sinned", I'm curious... What was that sin?

Amanah 01-09-2018 02:43 PM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
If the angels of the churches in revelation were men, then sometimes angels can be men?

houston 01-09-2018 03:00 PM

Re: Do angels have free will?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1515540)
If the angels of the churches in revelation were men, then sometimes angels can be men?

Those were real men.


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