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Being in the form of God, thought it not robbery
I have been studying this passage in Philippians 2:6, noticing the translations are kind of all over the place.
Some say - "Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;" NIV "Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to." NLT KJV says it this way - "King James Bible Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery (the act of seizing) to be equal with God:" Some Commentators say: Quote:
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Philippians 2:7 begins with "but", which indicates that verse 6 and 7 are opposed to each other. I do not believe the "but" goes as far in opposition as some Commentators state. Jesus tells us that "greater things than these will you do..." I believe that Philippians is simply saying that while we acknowledge the power and authority we have with God through the Spirit, our main desire should always be love and compassion which only belongs to a servant. As way of example, the gifts of the Spirit are something to be desired. However, if we desire them to bolster or set our ministry apart we are on the road to shipwreck. As I heard a pastor state, "the crazy side of Waco" or something to that effect. But, if we pray and seek the Gifts because we have love and compassion toward those who need God to come in and lift them up in the most miraculous way to set their lives in order, that is what the heart of a true servant looks like to me. Just my thoughts today - Seek charity... |
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His NAME is Jesus!
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We must read the complete content and context: (v5)Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: (v6)Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: (v7)But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: (v8)And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. (v5) Let the will and desire abide in you that was in [the man] Christ Jesus (v6) being in the body prepared of God, did not consider it unrighteous to be considered God, himself: (v7) But he disposed himself of his glory, by being robed in flesh as a man and becoming a servant, instead of being served: (v8) He humbled himself to the uttermost by being clothed in humanity, and obeyed the Highest Calling in his sacrificial death on the cross. He could not humble Himself more: for then he would have to be an animal! Brother Villa |
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We see His glory in the "face" of Jesus Christ. When the NT talks about "glory" - it is saying - God is here - manifest in the flesh. He wants us to carry His power, but use it with the mind of a servant. That is what He did and why He could say, "But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many." - Mark 10:43-45 The NT church is a spiritual entity. I believe we are getting away from that. People are afraid of the gifts, but never stopped to realize that the mistakes they have encountered were done by those who were and have been self-serving. How can Jesus not talk about Acts 2:38, besides because it wasn't yet written, when He mentions the "Kingdom has come"? Because He was here to show us how the Kingdom operates. Acts 2:38 shows us how to enter into the Kingdom. For example, Jesus says, "Be healed". When we enter into that Kingdom by obeying Acts 2:38, we then turn and act like Jesus, saying - "Be healed." It is all about operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, having the importance of the Kingdom in our purview and not ourselves. "Without Him, we can do nothing." |
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His NAME is Jesus!
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And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I HAD with thee BEFORE the world was. We must remember that the disciples did not have the same knowledge then, that we (those who have the Holy Spirit) have today. The gospels "according to" were written AFTER the Lord's resurrection, his descending to earth, and his ascension; also, they did not receive the understanding of many things until then! There is no glory in the flesh, for "...the flesh profits nothing: it is the Spirit that quickens." Which brings us to His glory. Just what is His glory? Jesus said, "...the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwells in me, he DOES THE WORKS." When we speak truth, the Father (if He indeed dwells in us), He will most certainly do the works...and be glorified in us! Brother Villa |
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To add to the discussion... if you look closely you will see in the text that Christ did what Adam was supposed to do, and refused to do what Adam actually did. And as a result, Christ got what Adam was trying to get (but didn't). In fact, Christ got what Adam tried to get by voluntarily submitting Himself to what was forced upon Adam.
The passage is a wonderful statement of Paul's "Adam Christology", that is, of Christ as the Second Adam who recapitulates Adam's history and reverses Adam's failure. |
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The correct word should have been DIVESTED,and not disposed. But be not astounded: for if the word spoken by God was then divested of its glory only to be clothed/robed in humanity, it will also soon be divested of its humanity to be clothed/robed again in His glory! Brother Villa |
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