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robogreg_2000 03-12-2018 11:46 AM

Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 
We all know that no one Baptized between the the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the day of Pentecost! We also know that no one was commanded to be baptized in Jesus'name until then..................Please tell me were the Apostles Matthew,John,James Thomas etc baptized in Jesus name and if so by whom? Is there any scripture found in the bible to answer this question.

Evang.Benincasa 03-12-2018 12:35 PM

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John 4:1 Jesus and His disciples baptized in the Jordan.

John 3:22 the writer documents that Jesus and His disciples went into the Judean countryside, with his followers and baptized.

In John 3:26 the Pharisees try to tell John that he was having a church split. That Jesus who was baptized by John went on His own and was baptizing His own neophytes. Therefore the Gospel according to John records that Jesus' apostles baptized early in their ministry.

consapente89 03-12-2018 12:44 PM

Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 
EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.

Aquila 03-12-2018 01:31 PM

Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1522282)
EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.

It is written:
John 4:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
Only the disciples performed baptisms. Jesus didn't water baptize anyone.

RachelRose 03-12-2018 01:49 PM

Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1522281)
John 4:1 Jesus and His disciples baptized in the Jordan.

John 3:22 the writer documents that Jesus and His disciples went into the Judean countryside, with his followers and baptized.

In John 3:26 the Pharisees try to tell John that he was having a church split. That Jesus who was baptized by John went on His own and was baptizing His own neophytes. Therefore the Gospel according to John records that Jesus' apostles baptized early in their ministry.

Of course He did.

Esaias 03-12-2018 02:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1522282)
EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.

I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.

Aquila 03-12-2018 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1522309)
I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.

I agree. The text appears to state that Jesus didn't water baptize. EB appears to be wrong on this one.

Did you know, that EB thought he might be mistaken once, but he was wrong? :lol

MarieA27 03-12-2018 03:50 PM

Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1522309)
I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.

I believe that Jesus did baptize, as the Bible says that the husband an that labors must be first partakers of the fruit. He can’t actively preach something and then don’t partake in that ourselves, as He had to be an example unto them first as to what they should do.

As far as I know, there are two incidents were it talks about Jesus baptizing. One says that Jesus took his disciples to the river, and baptized, another says that Jesus baptized not, but his disciples. Due to that, I think the second scripture is saying that Jesus baptized no one, but his disciples, or that Jesus only baptized his disciples.

Evang.Benincasa 03-12-2018 04:00 PM

Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1522287)
It is written:
John 4:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
Only the disciples performed baptisms. Jesus didn't water baptize anyone.

Commas were added later to the document. The previous witness of the writer of John, and the religious Judean leadership has Jesus baptizing His apostles.

Jesus is baptized by John, Jesus then baptizes His 12, and they in turn baptize others.

Evang.Benincasa 03-12-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieA27 (Post 1522334)
I believe that Jesus did baptize, as the Bible says that the husband an that labors must be first partakers of the fruit. He can’t actively preach something and then don’t partake in that ourselves, as He had to be an example unto them first as to what they should do.

As far as I know, there are two incidents were it talks about Jesus baptizing. One says that Jesus took his disciples to the river, and baptized, another says that Jesus baptized not, but his disciples. Due to that, I think the second scripture is saying that Jesus baptized no one, but his disciples, or that Jesus only baptized his disciples.

the Greek actually reads..."Jesus Himself was not baptizing but the disciples of Him." This is where it can be understood both ways. One that Jesus baptized no one outside His apostles, or that He baptized no one including His apostles. The latter gets a little sketchy, because when Paul meets disciples of John he requires them to be rebaptized in Jesus name. Therefore making us understand that the baptism of John was only the precursor to the final baptism in Jesus name. Jesus has John baptize Him in order to start His ministry. His apostles who some were already baptized by John, others weren't. Therefore to fulfill all righteousness for all 12 they would need to be baptized. Again, we have two witnesses, one the writer of John saying that at some point Jesus did some baptizing, and the other the Judean religious leadership saying Jesus was baptizing. Therefore to understand the quotation in John 4:2 we would have to take into consideration what was said before in John 3.


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