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Strict Baptist 03-23-2018 10:59 AM

Books Explaining Oneness Pentecostalism
 
Let us say a man walked into a so-called Apostolic assembly without any prior knowledge of the Jesus-Only baptismal formula, modalistic view of the divinity or why some carry on in a funny ecstatic talking (a sinner's description of tongues). Were he to approach any of you, what would you recommend to him were he to ask for material to read from a Oneness perspective?

Amanah 03-23-2018 11:07 AM

Re: Books Explaining Oneness Pentecostalism
 
you could look at this site for information

http://onenesspentecostal.com/

Steven Avery 03-23-2018 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1523690)
you could look at this site for information
http://onenesspentecostal.com/

In which case you will be subject to a ton of error, including modern seminarian corruption version material which Jason Dulle embraces. Along with the yahwehista anti-Jehovah stuff.

A simple example of his agitprop ignorance is in his “Textus Receptus” article, where he takes the village idiot position that the unimportant Scrivener edition is the definition of the TR, and thus makes the ridiculous argument that it is wrong to say that the AV is TR-based.

(Virtually every AV reading comes from a TR edition, most frequently Beza 1598 or Stephanus 1550.)

Generally, a site to bypass.

Aquila 03-23-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Strict Baptist (Post 1523688)
Let us say a man walked into a so-called Apostolic assembly without any prior knowledge of the Jesus-Only baptismal formula, modalistic view of the divinity or why some carry on in a funny ecstatic talking (a sinner's description of tongues). Were he to approach any of you, what would you recommend to him were he to ask for material to read from a Oneness perspective?

I'd advise him to just set aside everything he ever learned (it will be waiting on him if he wishes to return to it), and read the book of Acts.

Strict Baptist 03-23-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1523695)
I'd advise him to just set aside everything he ever learned (it will be waiting on him if he wishes to return to it), and read the book of Acts.

I read the entire book yesterday with all of Romans. I'm asking for extra-scriptural content. Oneness Pentecostalism is useless if it cannot be explained reasonably. Would anyone suggest The Oneness of God?

Monterrey 03-23-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Strict Baptist (Post 1523699)
I read the entire book yesterday with all of Romans. I'm asking for extra-scriptural content. Oneness Pentecostalism is useless if it cannot be explained reasonably. Would anyone suggest The Oneness of God?

Not true at all. Coming from a Baptist background as you say you are, I assume you baptize in the trinitarian method, yet the book of acts is only JESUS NAME baptism.

With that in mind I can see where you would want some extra Biblical materials as you can not find any reference to the trinitarian formula in the book of acts.

:nod

Strict Baptist 03-23-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1523701)
Not true at all. Coming from a Baptist background as you say you are, I assume you baptize in the trinitarian method, yet the book of acts is only JESUS NAME baptism.

With that in mind I can see where you would want some extra Biblical materials as you can not find any reference to the trinitarian formula in the book of acts.

:nod

Sigh. The name of the Lord, Jesus, Lord Jesus, Christ and others are used. Can you explain what does your post have to do with resources someone could study apart from Scripture to better grasp the Oneness model, particularly as my opening post said someone without prior knowledge of Oneness Pentecostalism rather than making logical fallacies?

Strict Baptist 03-23-2018 01:58 PM

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I'll be taking a bye for a few days since this-and-that require attention. Feel free to carry on, but I ask for books such as The Oneness of God or something like that so as to have resources to fall back upon. I am a writer and do not want to misrepresent the thirty-something-odd million Oneness Pentecostals globally in print.

Originalist 03-23-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Strict Baptist (Post 1523708)
Sigh. The name of the Lord, Jesus, Lord Jesus, Christ and others are used. Can you explain what does your post have to do with resources someone could study apart from Scripture to better grasp the Oneness model, particularly as my opening post said someone without prior knowledge of Oneness Pentecostalism rather than making logical fallacies?

We do not have extra-biblical sources we esteem to be on par with the holy writ. I recommend you read my essay. You might be surprised.

Strict Baptist 03-23-2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1523713)
We do not have extra-biblical sources we esteem to be on par with the holy writ. I recommend you read my essay. You might be surprised.

I found it full of contradictions or misrepresentations mixed in with some helpful things. EW Bullinger was a heretic who by no means represents Trinitarianism. Bullinger believed things that would make the Oneness crowd excommunicate him with cinged eyebrows.

Nothing is on part with Scripture. A writer will make a fool of himself if he simply says sans citation, "Oneness Pentecostalism generally believes X, Y, Z, and without these, all are damned." He must consequently have resources to quote explaining Oneness doctrine. Have you any suggestions apart from that treatise of yours, which is useful to a degree, but only one man's opinions?


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