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Pressing-On 05-17-2018 07:50 AM

I John 5:8?
 
The Interlinear:

"the Spirit and the water and the blood also these three in one are" I John 5:8

Some say that "These three are one" was added and not original to the text.

If a person were reading the New International Version, this is what they would see:

"the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." (NIV)


Comments?

Amanah 05-17-2018 08:06 AM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Good topic, looking forward to reading the replies

Apostolic1ness 05-17-2018 08:53 AM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1531027)
The Interlinear:

"the Spirit and the water and the blood also these three in one are" I John 5:8

Some say that "These three are one" was added and not original to the text.

If a person were reading the New International Version, this is what they would see:

"the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." (NIV)


Comments?

blessed holy trinity

JK

Michael The Disciple 05-17-2018 10:21 AM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
That verse was the first verse shown to me used to prove Oneness doctrine. These three ARE one, not agree in one.

Pressing-On 05-17-2018 10:49 AM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1531073)
That verse was the first verse shown to me used to prove Oneness doctrine. These three ARE one, not agree in one.

That is awesome! In your studies, do you have any reference or documentation on how this verse came to be viewed and written both ways, ie, Oneness and Trinitarian?

Have you taught a lesson surrounding this passage?

1ofthechosen 05-17-2018 11:03 AM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1531074)
That is awesome! In your studies, do you have any reference or documentation on how this verse came to be viewed and written both ways, ie, Oneness and Trinitarian?

Have you taught a lesson surrounding this passage?

I see those as the witness in the earth As John 3:5 says the new birth would be, water and Spirit. While people fight over where is the blood applied, this scripture shows to me where it is upon the earth. That if you don't have all 3 witnessed the water and the Spirit you have not the blood. Which there's so many people that say oh well you just have to have the Spirit, or you just need to be baptized. But this scripture says that all 3 agree in one. You have to have all 3 or no new birth.

I see some sources just say 1 John 5:7 was added while others 5:8 also. Thats funny Brother Michael said it was one of the first scriptures shown to him to explain the oneness. For me it was a great revelation on salvation and the new birth, because they are the witness of whether your saved or not.

Esaias 05-17-2018 11:45 AM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1531027)
The Interlinear:

"the Spirit and the water and the blood also these three in one are" I John 5:8

Some say that "These three are one" was added and not original to the text.

If a person were reading the New International Version, this is what they would see:

"the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." (NIV)


Comments?

The last time I used an NIV was as a doorstop.

Pressing-On 05-17-2018 12:45 PM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen (Post 1531079)
I see those as the witness in the earth As John 3:5 says the new birth would be, water and Spirit. While people fight over where is the blood applied, this scripture shows to me where it is upon the earth. That if you don't have all 3 witnessed the water and the Spirit you have not the blood. Which there's so many people that say oh well you just have to have the Spirit, or you just need to be baptized. But this scripture says that all 3 agree in one. You have to have all 3 or no new birth.

I see some sources just say 1 John 5:7 was added while others 5:8 also. Thats funny Brother Michael said it was one of the first scriptures shown to him to explain the oneness. For me it was a great revelation on salvation and the new birth, because they are the witness of whether your saved or not.

:thumbsup

Pressing-On 05-17-2018 12:45 PM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1531100)
The last time I used an NIV was as a doorstop.

Lol! What is your opinion on the NLT?

Evang.Benincasa 05-17-2018 12:59 PM

Re: I John 5:8?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1531122)
Lol! What is your opinion on the NLT?

I like how it translates Genesis 3:16 :couch


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