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Qassem Soleimani.

This can be a very problematic strike. There is no turning around from this point. Now we are committed to move forward, and Iran are committed to be our enemy forever! Two former presidents didn't want to take this general out, and there is a good reason why. But, there is no longer any discussion on why not to assassinate General Qassem Soleimani. We already did, now it's the Iranian's next move. Qassem Soleimani. Somewhere in Manhattan there are five Mossad agents high fiving each other. Good grief, Statism is the biggest religion on the planet.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577337)

Probably a few more than 5 but it's all good man! The US of A is Gods country and anything King Cyrus does is under Gods direct control ESPECIALLY when taking out Israel's enemies.

Entangling alliances are a goooood thing!

We are allllll together sink or swim and isnt it nice not being alone?

Nobody wants to be the grumpy party pooping isolationist in the corner who didnt want to be at the party to begin with!

Hey I have an idea thats sure to be super swell!

How about we count how many treaties for mutual defense Iran has and with who?

Ill bet Russia makes the list!

Iran has treaties with Russia, Venezuela and Lebanon.

And those nations have alliances with other nations.

Just sayin...this could get nasty especially with China redoubling their efforts to move into and develop the African continent.

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One promise which Trump has not kept is the promise to bring the troops home and end all foreign wars. I'm disappointed that his first term is coming to an end, our boys are still in the ME and we are still taking offensive military actions.

Everyone agrees that Soleimani was an evil and cruel man. He plotted and organized strikes against the US which killed hundreds of soldiers and civilians over the decades.

He was arrogant and stupid for believing he could just fly into Baghdad days after Iranian militias tried storming the Embassy and soon after a US contractor was killed. The fact that Iraq allowed him to do so should cause Trump to question Iraq's loyalties and commitment.

I don't know what intel Trump had or what Soleimani was doing in Baghdad. One can only imagine he was plotting something against the US Embassy or bases there.

Iran has ALWAYS been a dangerous enemy. I don't agree with those who claim we're less safe today than when Soleimani was alive.

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1577341)

This strike had nothing to do with "entangling alliances." This was the US and Trump acting alone to target a man who is directly responsible for not only the attack against the Embassy earlier this week, but many, many other attacks which have resulted in the death of hundreds of US men and women.

Change your drawers. Russia isn't going to do a thing against the US. Neither will Venezuela or Lebanon. They have too much internal issues to worry about Iran. China is worrying about its economy because of Trump's tariffs and domestic actions. They are on their first losing streak in decades.

Yes, things could get very bad. Hezbollah and the Quds Force is willing to strike wherever and however they can. While I would guess that the likely target of retaliation will be a FOB in Iraq where the defenses are less than at the Embassy or Camp Victory. They will want a repeat of Beirut -- a high dead toll. Or they could target Israel as they've done time and time again.

Bottom line is Soleimani was there for a reason. There's little doubt he was planning something against the US. It's better that he's dead than alive.

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1577341)

The assassination of Qassem Soleimani was in retaliation for the attack on the U.S. embassy in Iraq. Every freeborn Roman had the same assurance when traveling through the Empire. When Paul the apostle was getting beaten. His reply to his torturers was "is it lawful to beat a Roman Citizen without trial?" When the jail keeper heard that Paul was a freeborn Roman his first reaction was that of fear. Why? Because it was the same thing as not only beating Caesar, but ROME itself. So, the United State Embassy is the United State outpost in one of the countries under US occupation/control. Therefore attack it, and swift and painful retribution must follow. The might of the Imperial Eagle must land upon all those who dare to designate her.
They laughed at Trump when he threatened North Korea with death from the skies as "Fire and Fury!" But, that is what is expected of him. Kim Jong Un, knows full well who he is dealing with. Not with just the POTUS. But with the Eagle of the most powerful Empire ever to be on the planet. One that when it is unleashed will destroy everything in its path. Destruction which will make a zombie apocalypse look like "Anne of Green Gables." It isn't just don't tread on me, but don't even think of treading on me. I wonder if Qassem Soleimani was sitting at the roundtable discussion when Muammar Gaddafi (when talking about the hanging of Saddam Hussein) said "who at this table will be next?" Not only did Muammar Gaddafi speak a prophecy against himself, but for all of those who would be leadership in his region of the Middle East and the arab world. All this has been a long time in the making. There is no fighting it, the Eagle will Land. Just everyone needs to pray for American citizens who travel, news reporters, workers, businessmen, because like it or not, they represent the US.

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Finally a president to stand up to Iran! Iran now knows we won’t be pushed around. If they retaliate that will wait until a Democrat gets back in office.

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

Everyone agrees that Soleimani was an evil and cruel man. He plotted and organized strikes against the US which killed hundreds of soldiers and civilians over the decades.

Evil and cruel? That is because he isn't on our side. Look, every opposition of "our side" is evil and cruel. Because we can't say he was godly and loved his family to a fault. That is because then we look like the bad guys. Every war which was ever fought painted the opposition as the baby killers. To understand history, we understand the future. If we don't learn from history, then we have no future. Qassem Soleimani was the enemy, and leader of the enemy force. If he is evil and cruel because he killed people, well, I would kind of expect that since he is a solider. As being a general he would have to kill all who opposes his objectives. Not expecting him to be a diplomat who is taking long walks down the beach with his opposition. No, that is what the politicians do. The warrior fights the wars, and kills and gets killed.
Qassem Soleimani mistake is that he never thought a POTUS would retaliate to such a magnitude. Maybe Qassem Soleimani believed Trump was good on a promise of removing his troops out of foreign wars. Which I don't believe that he thought the U.S. would ever leave. But he did believe that a strike swiftly implemented so soon and against him wouldn't happen. He was wrong.

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

He was arrogant and stupid for believing he could just fly into Baghdad days after Iranian militias tried storming the Embassy and soon after a US contractor was killed. The fact that Iraq allowed him to do so should cause Trump to question Iraq's loyalties and commitment.

Can of worms, we should of left long long ago. What is our objectives? Why are we still there? They don't hate us because we are Christians or that we are free. They hate us because we kill them, and in return they kill us. POTUS question the loyalties of Iraq?? Saddam Hussein (if he was still alive) would laugh hysterically. He had to run the place like Dr Moreau on the Island of Lost Souls. Everyone knows this, but can't understand you cannot export American Republican Democratic Christian values on the end of a rifle butt. Or with a pack of cigarettes, can of Sprite, unlimited HBO, and free Amazon Prime. No way it will happen. But subjugation takes a lot of military might, and a lot of manpower. Conquest is hard work which takes a long time. You have to get rid of their religion, language, and culture. It has to be replaced with our religion, language, and culture. Then after a couple of generations (maybe even more than that) they will look just like us. :D

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

I don't know what intel Trump had or what Soleimani was doing in Baghdad. One can only imagine he was plotting something against the US Embassy or bases there.

Intel? We know what Qassem Soleimani wanted to do. It was all over the internet since Trump was elected. Since the first "tweets" from our illustrious leader against Iran. Qassem Soleimani promised to hit us where we least expect it. that they had cells in places where we had no idea where they were hiding.

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1577342)

Iran has ALWAYS been a dangerous enemy. I don't agree with those who claim we're less safe today than when Soleimani was alive.

Bro, this isn't about Qassem Soleimani. This isn't about the reality show actor who we have as president. This is about a bear you put a few arrows in. Now, it has run off into the woods. The job at this point, is to finish the job.
You see this "enemy" doesn't march a battalion like the red coats at Bunker Hill. They are among us, and now the game MIGHT just been stepped up. If Qassem Soleimani was just blowing smoke, and we have already captured all the cells around our bases and country. Then we can all go back to arguing over hair length and which day is the sabbath. If he was telling the truth and it is worse than we originally thought. Then we will find that out as well. Whichever way we slice it, what these politician do to protect us, I sure wish they would put a wee bit more prayer and fasting into it.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577353)

The POTUS cannot end foreign wars, because they are a part of our conquest of the Middle East. One promise he has not kept, because it is impossible to keep. History is our finest teacher, she teaches us what to always expect. How things pan out and work within the machine. Don't expect virtue from leadership, it is just not in them. But expect leadership that by any means necessary will take what it needs to survive. Crushing all that dares to slow its progress down.

Evil and cruel? That is because he isn't on our side. Look, every opposition of "our side" is evil and cruel. Because we can't say he was godly and loved his family to a fault. That is because then we look like the bad guys. Every war which was ever fought painted the opposition as the baby killers. To understand history, we understand the future. If we don't learn from history, then we have no future. Qassem Soleimani was the enemy, and leader of the enemy force. If he is evil and cruel because he killed people, well, I would kind of expect that since he is a solider. As being a general he would have to kill all who opposes his objectives. Not expecting him to be a diplomat who is taking long walks down the beach with his opposition. No, that is what the politicians do. The warrior fights the wars, and kills and gets killed.
Qassem Soleimani mistake is that he never thought a POTUS would retaliate to such a magnitude. Maybe Qassem Soleimani believed Trump was good on a promise of removing his troops out of foreign wars. Which I don't believe that he thought the U.S. would ever leave. But he did believe that a strike swiftly implemented so soon and against him wouldn't happen. He was wrong.

Can of worms, we should of left long long ago. What is our objectives? Why are we still there? They don't hate us because we are Christians or that we are free. They hate us because we kill them, and in return they kill us. POTUS question the loyalties of Iraq?? Saddam Hussein (if he was still alive) would laugh hysterically. He had to run the place like Dr Moreau on the Island of Lost Souls. Everyone knows this, but can't understand you cannot export American Republican Democratic Christian values on the end of a rifle butt. Or with a pack of cigarettes, can of Sprite, unlimited HBO, and free Amazon Prime. No way it will happen. But subjugation takes a lot of military might, and a lot of manpower. Conquest is hard work which takes a long time. You have to get rid of their religion, language, and culture. It has to be replaced with our religion, language, and culture. Then after a couple of generations (maybe even more than that) they will look just like us. :D

Intel? We know what Qassem Soleimani wanted to do. It was all over the internet since Trump was elected. Since the first "tweets" from our illustrious leader against Iran. Qassem Soleimani promised to hit us where we least expect it. that they had cells in places where we had no idea where they were hiding.

Bro, this isn't about Qassem Soleimani. This isn't about the reality show actor who we have as president. This is about a bear you put a few arrows in. Now, it has run off into the woods. The job at this point, is to finish the job.
You see this "enemy" doesn't march a battalion like the red coats at Bunker Hill. They are among us, and now the game MIGHT just been stepped up. If Qassem Soleimani was just blowing smoke, and we have already captured all the cells around our bases and country. Then we can all go back to arguing over hair length and which day is the sabbath. If he was telling the truth and it is worse than we originally thought. Then we will find that out as well. Whichever way we slice it, what these politician do to protect us, I sure wish they would put a wee bit more prayer and fasting into it.

Really wishing I had my own homestead about now off in the woods.

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1577355)

Really wishing I had my own homestead about now off in the woods.

Maybe it will all be ok. Hey, there is no way they can mess with us on our own soil. We are building a wall like Hadrian. It worked for him right? It will work for us. All is well, go to sleep knowing that nothing can stop a people who have a free month of Amazon Prime. :)

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1577356)

But brother . . .

I don’t have free amazon prime.

What shall I do?

I don’t even have choice?

I’m more of the stew meat demographic.