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Evang.Benincasa 07-15-2025 09:20 PM

John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues.
 
John MacArthur was a cessationist he believed the gifts of the Holy Ghost including speaking in tongues, ceased with the apostles in the first century A.D.
But, that really isn't the reason why he didn't believe in tongues. He never had the Holy Ghost. He grew up in a dead dry as toast religion. Deader than fried chicken, dryer than a mummy's pocket. Sadly he never wept and prayed through to feel the power of the Holy Ghost. Ol' John Boy did write a book though, called Charismatic Chaos. A young man in our church family years ago handed me a copy. He said his Baptist mother gave him the book when she found out that he was attending church with us. He received the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues as God gave the utterance. Right after he was baptized in Jesus name. He was so happy, and told his mother all about it. Previously he wasn't interested in attending church. Was bordering on agnostic heading towards atheism. He didn't want to go back to the Baptist church because all he ever got out of that was good nap. He would sit in on my Bible studies out in Fort Lauderdale. First he would sit a few tables down and listen. Then he grabbed a Bible and sat with us. Later he started to come to service, then the rest I have already testified.
Yet, after this young man was filled to overflowing. A changed behavior, and a changed spirit. His mother concerned purchased John MacArthur's book. The young man asked me, "elder, should I read it?" I told him since your mother gave it to you, I think you should. So, he did. He is still living for God to this day.

You see, what poor John MacArthur couldn't understand is that when someone gets the real Holy Ghost, and really speaks in a heavenly language. They get a change, a change that no one can talk them out of. A change that keeps them going. They pray different, and they stay different. No amount of books, or pamphlets written by some dusty old Reformed Baptist can change it or put a halt to it.

Thank you Jesus for the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues.

Amanah 07-15-2025 10:23 PM

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Amen! Thankful for the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues :heart

Evang.Benincasa 07-16-2025 04:28 PM

Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
 
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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1620199)
Amen! Thankful for the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues :heart

Amen. It is the greatest blessing one can ever receive from Jesus Christ.
When someone is truly born again it is a pleasure which can't be described.
I'm so sorry for those who would teach otherwise. Instead of encouraging those who have never been filled to seek for infilling of the mighty power

Esaias 07-17-2025 01:33 AM

Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
 
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1620198)
John MacArthur was a cessationist he believed the gifts of the Holy Ghost including speaking in tongues, ceased with the apostles in the first century A.D.
But, that really isn't the reason why he didn't believe in tongues. He never had the Holy Ghost. He grew up in a dead dry as toast religion. Deader than fried chicken, dryer than a mummy's pocket. Sadly he never wept and prayed through to feel the power of the Holy Ghost. Ol' John Boy did write a book though, called Charismatic Chaos. A young man in our church family years ago handed me a copy. He said his Baptist mother gave him the book when she found out that he was attending church with us. He received the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues as God gave the utterance. Right after he was baptized in Jesus name. He was so happy, and told his mother all about it. Previously he wasn't interested in attending church. Was bordering on agnostic heading towards atheism. He didn't want to go back to the Baptist church because all he ever got out of that was good nap. He would sit in on my Bible studies out in Fort Lauderdale. First he would sit a few tables down and listen. Then he grabbed a Bible and sat with us. Later he started to come to service, then the rest I have already testified.
Yet, after this young man was filled to overflowing. A changed behavior, and a changed spirit. His mother concerned purchased John MacArthur's book. The young man asked me, "elder, should I read it?" I told him since your mother gave it to you, I think you should. So, he did. He is still living for God to this day.

You see, what poor John MacArthur couldn't understand is that when someone gets the real Holy Ghost, and really speaks in a heavenly language. They get a change, a change that no one can talk them out of. A change that keeps them going. They pray different, and they stay different. No amount of books, or pamphlets written by some dusty old Reformed Baptist can change it or put a halt to it.

Thank you Jesus for the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues.

:highfive

"No amount of books or pamphlets" amen to that!

Steven Avery 07-27-2025 02:18 PM

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John MacArthur became the biggest yahweh-(jupiter)-pusher of the last century with his Legacy Standard Bible (LSB). This is a very sad part of his legacy.

He was also incredibly weak on the precious blood of Jesus

John MacArthur did resist the “covid” mask-jab fascism, refusing to close his church.
That was rare among big churches.

diakonos 07-27-2025 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Avery (Post 1620222)
He was also incredibly weak on the precious blood of Jesus

What does that even mean?

Steven Avery 07-27-2025 08:25 PM

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Hi Diakonos,

John MacArthur considered the blood of Jesus as irrelevant, only a metaphor for his death.

There is quite a bit of good material on this available.

One of my Baptist friends says that this is a frequent failure of some segments of Calvinism.

Steven

diakonos 07-27-2025 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Avery (Post 1620224)
Hi Diakonos,

John MacArthur considered the blood of Jesus as irrelevant, only a metaphor for his death.

There is quite a bit of good material on this available.

One of my Baptist friends says that this is a frequent failure of some segments of Calvinism.

Steven

I thought that is what you were referring to.
That is a sound bite taken out of context.

Regards

Steven Avery 07-29-2025 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1620225)
I thought that is what you were referring to.
That is a sound bite taken out of context.
Regards

It was a position John MacArthur took for decades.

diakonos 07-29-2025 03:57 PM

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Wait, do people actually believe that the blood had real power, and it is not a reference to His death? Is that why people “plead” the blood of Jesus?


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