I went to Walter Hawkins church Tonight!
 

They had a late night Concert honoring the Late Bishop E.E Cleveland who founded & pastored the Ephesians Institutional COGIC till his death at age 94 in Oakland. He was the founding pioneer in the Bay area. All of the Hawkin Clan came from his church. he had a huge church of many thousands.

anyhow, the place was standing Room only- hotter than H- - - , no air conditioning, people fanning themselves with fans, people standing outside and packed in the halls(overflow).

since we first had to go to our church, we missed a lot of it, but what we heard was awesome of course. Bishop Blake of west angeles was there.

I have a feeling most of the people here at AFF could not tolerate the environment LOL!:killinme It's VERY Urban, in a BAAAD Neighborhood, I mean BAD, SCARY ,and you see a little bit of EVERYTHING! lol Even in the church. you just take what you see and move on- A world of difference than traditional UPC. But i will say, the people are really friendly and kind and the crowd is full of energy, I mean charged! never a dull moment.

well, that's it for the moment

Depends what UPC church you mean.

trust me on this one Trouvere, Love center is completley different than ANY UPC church you will EVER i mean EVVVVR in your life time visit :killinme

You haven't been to Louisiana have you?

Uuuh, I can see i am not getting Thru here - O well I tried.

I'm not going into details either :killinme

i know what u mean Thad.. I love visiting black churches! They got so much Spirit!!!! speaking of which i am going to a tye tribbett concert in kansas city, MO friday (Lord willing) and i am PUMPED!!!!!!!!!! He was in Little Rock a few months back and it was OFF DA HOOK!!!!!!!!!

He does a Great concert! and usually preaches too
and let me tell you, he does not hold his tongue!! it will be very forth right!
we opened up for him a few months ago it was a great experience.

Did you know that he just did another live recording in VA. last month ?

No tye def doesn't hold his tongue.. when he was here in LR they were having probs with the sound so he went ahead and preached a little while while they got the kinks out... You coulda heard a pen drop in that place when he started preaching against rap and r&b and all that stuff.. We were like "PREACH IT BROTHA!!" LOL
Yeah i can't wait for the new album to come out!!

we was shocked here when he OPENLY spoke out against TD JAKES and Fred Hammond!!! YES! he called their names out publically!!!


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speaking out how?