a honest question
 

i just got through looking at the larry booker thread and reading a little in it

we all know that no matter what the vote was in tampa this last year in the upc the organization was going to lose good men

with the vote being as it was the more conserative side was the one which has men leave

some of them have been accused of dividing the organization and so forth and such

you have been reading it so no need for me to go over it all again

but my question is what if the vote had been different and men from the more liberal side were choosing to leave would those men also be dividing the organization or would they be men of vision and desire to move the upc down the road

as i see it we cannot have it both ways

In a vaccume, your question is a good one.

however, in context, the question isnt so simple. The fact is, in 1992, a large number of those "liberal" pastors did leave. many of the ones leaving now, were happy to see them go.

LY was judged pretty harshly for a sermon he preached on the subject just before he left.

That's what I was thinking.

I don't believe at that time, the ones that left were saying that UPC would self-destruct either.

Of course, the issue is the more conservative are so passionate about their convictions and beliefs that they can only see things through their eyes and no one can fault them for that. However, I think sometimes they paint themselves into a corner.

I also believe this idea of the Cons being devisive stems from 1992. Many in the organization blame the Cons for that exodus and believe the Cons have been devisive since then.

Well, with this attitude - it's no wonder.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=146

Very sad the posted you mentioned...very sad indeed.

is this the words of just a few or many

from what i have been able to gather it is not the words of the many but a few that may even wish that would happen which if that is the case i think it is sad

some would say i am a liberal others would say i am a con but i can say that i wish no destruction for those who leave on either side of the issue

i do not believe however that God would bless anyone who strays from the doctrines taught in the Word of God such as repentance, baptism in Jesus Name or the Holy Ghost

personally i do not believe that this kind of attitude shown in the linked post above pleases God

not at all

I would think it's a few, but to keep hearing over and over that it's not out there is just wrong. It's out there - can't deny that some and I say again some feel this way.

Yes, Cara it is just wrong and cannot please God.