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Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-25-2021, 08:23 PM
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Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

Hey, man. If you want to continue to display your ignorance and show you aren't interested in the slightest in learning anything, you go right on ahead.

Just remember what pride goes before. And...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-25-2021, 08:21 PM
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Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

Too bad for you, because I am not a Trinitarian.

Pressing-On, I hope you are noticing how your continued mischaracterization of my beliefs and of me as a believer in Christ Jesus, coupled with...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-25-2021, 08:12 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

Isaiah 48:11 is written as Hebraic poetry, as much OT prophecy often is, specifically as a parallelism.

The prevailing theme of Isaiah 48 is the contrast between the works and promises of YHVH and...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-25-2021, 07:32 PM
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Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

Do you address John 17:5 in the video?

If so, do you have a time stamp or minute mark for it?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-25-2021, 07:27 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

Just as I said above, from the quotes from the Gospel of John. There Jesus used self-referential, or first person singular, pronouns when speaking of the idea that He would later on indwell His...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-23-2021, 12:15 PM
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Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

There is one "divine person" within the Deity (or Godhead, if you prefer) of God the Father. This does not force Jesus to do anything. He doesn't have to bend the meaning of language and grammar just...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-22-2021, 10:15 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

How about you interact with what I wrote about John 17:5 and demonstrate, if you can, how what I wrote is in error, and leave me and your beef with me out of it?

And just because I wrote that the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-22-2021, 09:27 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

No, I didn't. And you know I didn't. Because you and I have been around and around on this like what, close to SEVEN TIMES?

This was the last time, if memory serves:
...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-21-2021, 09:37 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 3,383
Posted By votivesoul
Re: The Son Is Gods Self 1 Hr. Video

Mike,

The situation in Luke 12 and the rich man and his private, internal cogitations is not at all the same as the situation we see between Jesus and the Father. You quoted the text at length and...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-20-2021, 01:07 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

Either way, the Nicene Creed you shared goes back to 325AD and both Roman and Orthodox trace their roots to that conference.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-20-2021, 12:48 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

Hence no use of the word Roman on my part. :thumbsup
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-20-2021, 08:46 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

What I wrote was true, in that what you shared was the original Nicene Creed from 325AD, translated into 21st century English, and was, as such, the official formation of the Catholic Church, despite...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-16-2021, 01:55 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

The creed seguirdodejesus posted is the Nicene Creed, which is the official formulation of the Catholic Church, so 1God's critique is warranted.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-14-2021, 08:01 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

I would venture to say, almost no Trinitarian scholar holds that position.

The best answer, in my opinion, for what the "let us" refers to is here:

http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-14-2021, 07:58 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

And anything less than this isn't even "church". Just a catholic mass with a "Pentecostal" coat of paint.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-14-2021, 07:56 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

No offense taken. All good! :thumbsup
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-14-2021, 07:55 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

If the Spirit of God is in us, then all that makes God, God, is present within us through Him. We do not have a compartmentalized Spirit of God, or just a segment of His God-hood resident in us. We...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-14-2021, 07:49 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-11-2021, 09:41 PM
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Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

You are misunderstanding Colossians 2:9.

No, not every bit of what God consists of is in Jesus, bodily, in terms of quantity.

Rather, everything that makes God, God, per His Deity (nature and...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-11-2021, 09:34 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

Nonsense.

Nowhere in any verse of the New Covenant Scriptures is anyone ever enjoined to submit to the Gospel, only believe and receive by obeying.

No one can successfully obey the Gospel...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-11-2021, 09:29 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

You just can't hear yourself. You can't get it out of your head that Trinitarians really mean Gods when they say persons, even though that's not the case. Calling them "separate" only refers to the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-11-2021, 09:26 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

Then Apostolics who don't understand their own doctrine well enough ought to be the first ones to shut up when it comes to trying to understand someone else's doctrine.

That's the very foundation...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-11-2021, 09:23 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

No pass here. There is no complication in making certain one accurately reflects the language and ideas one uses when setting forth the basic principles of the doctrine.

There is nothing about...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-09-2021, 09:49 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

Bodies by nature are not and cannot be omnipresent. Bodies, as dimensional containers of matter, are definitionally topologically limited to time and space.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 04-09-2021, 09:45 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 7,658
Posted By votivesoul
Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name

Regarding the emboldened and underlined text above. As I have been attempting to show Nicodemus1968, it is mistaken to say that Trinitarians believe in three deities.

To the Trinitarian, there is...
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